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by wev
Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Silversmith or Not?-Round 2
Replies: 12
Views: 5822

Re: Silversmith or Not?-Round 2

There was also Thomas Phillips, working 1800-1805. There is a teaspoon in the Winterthur collection marked "TP" and "Paris"
by wev
Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Silversmith or Not?-Round 2
Replies: 12
Views: 5822

Re: Silversmith or Not?-Round 2

It might be worth noting that Eljah Clark, later a prominent jeweler in Lexington, came to Paris from Ohio in 1850 to learn the jewelry trade. In 1854, he married Ella Louisa, Joseph Stephen's daughter, which may indicate a master/apprentice relationship or at least an employer/employee one.
by wev
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Unusual Small Marrow Scoop - Provincial or Colonial?
Replies: 4
Views: 7865

Re: Unusual Small Marrow Scoop - Provincial or Colonial?

a similar mark on a 4.25" spoon attributed to Syng jr by Winterthur

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by wev
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Sterling Manufacturers ~ American after-1860
Topic: Help with mark
Replies: 5
Views: 2104

Re: Help with mark

Made by Whiting & Co, retailed by Janowitz.
by wev
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Unknown silver smith on spoon silver
Replies: 8
Views: 5220

Re: Unknown silver smith on spoon silver

I have not seen any definitive proof, but it has been attributed to Palmer & Hinsdale, NYC c 1815-1819
by wev
Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:34 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Why is McGrew's book on coin silver maker's marks so expensive??
Replies: 2
Views: 4844

Re: Why is McGrew's book on coin silver maker's marks so expensive??

I assume you are looking at the copies offered on Amazon? I believe these are to order reprints, which is becoming a common scam. I think you can still order direct from Mr. McGrew (355 Park Heights Blvd. Hanover, PA 17331-4037) at the original (and quite reasonable) price, but check to make sure.
by wev
Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?
Replies: 4
Views: 5659

Re: Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?

1) my little project is based on a single family tree genealogy of smiths and related craftsmen. Cole's family line is not (to my knowledge) tied to it, so he, along with many other makers, is not included. It is an arbitrary caprice, but there you go. 2) Safe to assume, but it could be either. Ther...
by wev
Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?
Replies: 4
Views: 5659

Re: Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?

You have the first image upside down -- it is a blackletter M. The mark is one of several similar attributed to Montgomery & Co and Morgan Morgans, jr, who were successors to Albert Coles.
by wev
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:39 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: American Silversmiths
Replies: 1
Views: 882

American Silversmiths

Following the Ancestry/Rootsweb fiasco, I have established my own site:

American Silversmiths
by wev
Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Can't Identify The Maker's Mark
Replies: 3
Views: 3295

Re: Can't Identify The Maker's Mark

Robert Wilson, Philadelphia c 1810-1825. I have several serving spoons with the same marks
by wev
Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:42 am
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?
Replies: 8
Views: 4916

Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Mid 19th century generic coin silver spoons made by the Gilbert/Gilbert & Cunningham/F. W. Cooper association of wholesale manufacturers. These marks are found countermarked with scores of retail marks, almost all centered around New York City. Very common.
by wev
Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:21 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Unknown Marks
Replies: 2
Views: 2290

Re: Unknown Marks

Neither. They are pseudo marks attributed to the NY wholesale manufacturers Philo Gilbert, Daniel Cunningham, and F. W. Cooper working in various combinations c 1835-1850. The marks are found in conjunction with the counter marks on scores of retailers throughout New York and occasionally as far sou...
by wev
Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:42 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: American basting spoon, any info appreciated.
Replies: 4
Views: 3971

Re: American basting spoon, any info appreciated.

The last should read
It's all very convoluted, which should be no real surprise"

The inability to edit a post on this forum is infuriating.
by wev
Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:38 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: American basting spoon, any info appreciated.
Replies: 4
Views: 3971

Re: American basting spoon, any info appreciated.

I presume the previous post meant the NYC jeweler and merchant Baldwin Gardiner . Like most of his fellows in the day, he retailed silver bought in from several NYC wholesale manufacturers, rather than producing standard goods in shop. The D/Lion/Bust mark is attributed to an as yet unknown NYC whol...
by wev
Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:04 am
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: N. Harding mark for Wev
Replies: 1
Views: 1833

Re: N. Harding mark for Wev

Thank you
by wev
Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:01 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: New Ordway mark for Wev
Replies: 2
Views: 2154

Re: New Ordway mark for Wev

Thank you
by wev
Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:53 pm
Forum: Sterling Manufacturers ~ American after-1860
Topic: On the line between coin and sterling
Replies: 3
Views: 2742

Re: On the line between coin and sterling

G -- some wholesale manufacturer, Gorham perhaps
925/1000 -- sterling grade silver. The word "Sterling" was not required until after 1907.
by wev
Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:57 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: (IT) provincial (IT)
Replies: 9
Views: 3737

Re: (IT) provincial (IT)

The maker is likely John Tanner of Newport RI. Winterthur has a number of similar spoons with the IT mark as here.

Graham's book should be approached with a good pinch of salt at the ready.

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