Mind my saying, you are so right Jakjo. However, the only problem is, that we don't have a SR 84 but instead S!84 and there is the difference, the exclamation mark! .
I found the mark with number 2 and a woman's head looking left. It is a Polish mark used up to 1931 for pieces weighting more than 10 grams and expressing the quality of 875/1000 silver. Your assumption of the pieces being from Poland seems to be correct, when the AN-theory is not. .
I’m very doubtful indeed whether this ”AN” would be the silversmith Anders Johan Nevalainen (this is the correct spelling). But since you’re asking about him, I can tell you that he was born January 1st 1858 in the county of Pielisjärvi in Finland. He died 1933 in Terijoki, a small town on the Care...
Here are the Finnish quality standards throughout the years. 800, 813, 830, 875, 916, 925 and 999. The quality marks 813, 830 and 916 can before the year 1972 have the letter capital H added in the end i.e. 813H. H stands for the Finnish word for silver i.e. “hopea”. The current (EU) standards are 8...
Here is the required photo of the whole piece. It is 5cm high. However, I get the impression that the lid actually doesn't belong to the rest. Its quality is not the same.
Hi, I’m completely lost with this quality mark of 84 and a head I profile. I have no idea wherefrom it comes. It is definitely not Russian but it could be Polish maybe Romanian, anyway from a country close to the former Russian sphere of influence i.e. eastern Europe. I would appreciate if some one ...
I took a look at the Russian Hallmarks page, especially the Russian Assay Marks. I noticed that there are quite a lot of assayers marked as unknown. I have a suggestion to some complements. However, while examining the assay marks, one should keep in mind that some assay masters registered to a cert...
Yes of course, bad wording sorry for that. What I actually meant be email was information regarding acquiring the books, not investigating the marks. My last comment was already partly out of topic. .
I’m afraid that I’m a bit out of topic now, but nevertheless I’d like share some information regarding Ivanov’s books. There are two books a green one by the name of Assaying and Hallmarking in Russia (1700-1946) and a blue one; Gold and Silversmiths in Russia (1600-1926). The blue book consists of ...
Thank you for the information. I appreciate it. However it is strange that this information is not included in A. Ivanovs books, which I think you most likely are familiar with. .
Mind my asking again blakstone, but where do you find the information that Nikolai Ivanovich Schulz was assaying in Jelgava 1851-1854. In my books he did work as an assayer but only in Toula 1856-1860. This means that he was according to your source working earlier i Jelgava, which of course is quit...
Better late than ever, :-). My information differs a bit from Juke’s, (the years); V. M. Ashmarin was an owner of a silverware factory 1883- 1917 . He owned the whole building at Kologrivsky lane in Moscow. The mentioned bronze medal was rewarded him in the Paris exhibition in 1900. In addition to t...
To Blakstone, With due respect blakstone, I would very match appreciate if you cold tell me what is your source regarding the assayer, this Mikhail Aleksandrovich Pereselegin, assayer at Vilnius 1888-1891. . I have several books of Russian assayers and silver smiths, hallmarks etc., but I cannot fin...
I’m afraid that there is still hardly anything to add. Reading what have been said only gives me one thing to comment on. That is that the Russians tend to drink their tea sometimes with milk. I might be that this pitcher is a stand-alone piece meant for the tea table. However I’m not sure at all. T...
Unfortunately there is not much to add to what is already mentioned as Juke also told you. But since you’re so eagerly gathering information about IN here is some additional minor notes. Before that, however, it is good to know that there is a major problem regarding information on Russian silversmi...
French!? With due respect, but in that case I kindly wonder how do you explain the three undoubtedly Cyrillic letters in the second mark from the left, the mark that looks like a pelican?
First of all, it is not Russian silver because the marks don’t correspond with Russian Silver marks. Secondly, I share the seller’s assumption of the piece being made in an alloy that is silver-plated but not silver. This is an alloy called new silver or alpaca. It contains of copper, nickel, and zi...
Hi, The assay master is as mentioned earlier Dimitri Tverskoy (assaying 1834-1851in St:P). IN are letters in Latin not in Cyrillic. The silversmith is a Finn, Joseph Nordberg, who was born 5 of May1817 in Finland. He became master 1848 and had his workshop in the house of Baldovski on the canal stre...