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Hello George, For information if you look again you'll find the WN mark on the knife isn't quite the same as the one on the forum's Sheffield menu. This has no pellet (dot) between the initials whereas the one on the 1928 knife does. These subtle differences can often be important in correctly ident...

Hello again Trev, There's an entry on http://www.familysearch.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for a John Whip born 1785 and christened 9th October of that year at St. Olave's York. There's a John Whipp (note the extra "p") aged 55 years on the 1841 census as a farmer at ...

Hello Trev,
The Sheffield Assay Office book shows this mark was registered by Jno. Whip & Jno. Rose from an address in Cross Burges Street Sheffield on 23rd December 1822. Neither is shown to have registered a separate mark at the office.
Regards,
Mike
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Hello Trev, For information Grimwade page 283 shows Gabriel Riddle registering a rounded end rectangle as his own mark in 1837. Culme's London Directory suggests Riddle was out of the business by 1851. Also the SM mark originally registered by Sampson Mordan continued to be used by his descendants t...

Hello Pat & Silver Aussie, Coincidence put me onto the Haddon Hall Derbyshire web site. Although there's no view exactly like the one on the pieces you have the style of architecture is very similar. Perhaps a direct question to the Hall would, at the least, eliminate the possibility? Regards, M...

Hello Volpone, After quite a few views without a reply you've probably realised that identification of this date letter is causing a lot of squinting and head scratching. In the hope that we might move the question forward here are my observations:- The shape of the lion passant seems to fit the ser...

Hello Kiwikid,
As Admin advises the image of the marks is a little small to positively see there's no dot (pellet) after the letter I. If there is a pellet several makers are possible; if not John Blake (Grimwade 1151), as Tongtwister suggests, is most likely.
Mike
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Hello Trev,
I think you're right that Jacob Ashenheim was the retailer referred to by Edinburgh AO as Ash.
I've not been able to find out any more about Sutter's reported involvement in the false use of marks.
Regards,
Mike
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Thanks Trev. You'll agree though it's an odd shaped single punch. Just to add a little spice there's brief mention on Edinburgh AO web site of Sutter (or Souter as he was also called) engaging in some forgery of marks involving a chap named Ashenheim and a retailer named Ash. Sutter was apprenticed ...

Hello Trev,
An overstrike had occurred to me too but I couldn't fathom why the base line of the JS punch or the top line of the W(?) punch looks to be missing hence the mark on the spoon was made by one strike. Any thoughts?
Regards,
Mike
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Hello Paul,
The Edinburgh office web site http://incorporationofgoldsmiths.co.uk doesn' seem to have an entry for either JS over WC or JS over WG so it looks as though the mark wasn't registered.
Regards,
The Other Mike
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Sorry Bookworm!
It's about your Bookmark!
Mike

Hello Bookmark, It seems no forum member has a record of who registered the DJ mark. It's a modern one and therefore unlikely to be recorded at all outside the Assay Office itself. Your best course now would be to try Goldsmiths Hall direct. The Deputy Warden's Email address is admin@londonassayoffi...

Hello,

The oval mark is perhaps the one identified at item 14710 of Culme's Directory as registered in 1864 by a William Evans of Sekforde Street succeeding his father John as a manufacturing silversmith in 1867 and disposing of the business to F A Burridge around 1894.

Mike
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Hello, The second spoon was probably made by James Beebe and put to assay in 1842-3. As the first spoon is by another maker they aren't a pair although they were, from the engraving, once owned by the same person. Benjamin Smith II is said in John Culme's London Directory (page424) to have been in h...

The original proprietor of this trade was Francis Lambert from around 1803. There is no record of him entering a maker/sponsor mark. Lambert was joined around 1819 by William Rawlings. Again no record of their entering a mark. From 1822-3 John Wrangham & William Moulson t/a Wrangham & Moulso...

Hello again Trev, In another part of Jackson's book I've discovered a reference to T Farnell so Sir Charles didn't know for sure either! I can't find James & George Twycross registering their own mark so presumably all of them used TWY+. I take your point regarding possible confusion. The TWY+ m...

Hello again Iris, It would be unlikely the first mark is other than one made in the UK. Four marks result from putting an item to assay and the ring has those. At a guess what you are looking at is a crown which has either become distorted by wear or, less likely, was a poorly struck mark in the fir...

Hello Miles, The string theory doesn't seem right somehow. Wouldn't there be some signs of wear from the cord chafing the edges of the holes? Especially in view of the 11oz weight it would have carried. Normally a cigarette roller would have an open groove for settling in the paper and for getting f...

Hello Tom,
Oh! I do like the idea of fork tines prodding into ladles for that extra bit of something.
It's strange though that, in my time with UK silver, there's been no evidence for it happening over here.
I'm now wondering why! Perhaps we just tipped the morsel onto our plate?
Regards,
Mike
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