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by clapel
Sun May 28, 2023 5:16 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Parisienne revolutionary period silversmith
Replies: 7
Views: 1844

Re: Parisienne revolutionary period silversmith

Hi GiulyF, I'm looking for numeri 8, which I seem to see on the right of A of your tastievin. Numeri 3 and 5 are documented; search on forum clapel : Kalandrin Regie's marks jurande P88 period. Numeri 7 and 9, already found, will be documented in my forthcoming note on forum : Kalandrin's marks peri...
by clapel
Thu May 25, 2023 4:42 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Parisienne revolutionary period silversmith
Replies: 7
Views: 1844

Re: Parisienne revolutionary period silversmith

Hi GiulyF, Kalandrin is documented to have struck his marks on February 23, 1789. Quoted from Arch. Nat. Zig 174. "J.F. Kalandrin, regisseur des droits d'Aides et autres y joints, fit insculper sur una table de cuivre couverte d'argent 96 nouveaux poinçon. Chaque poinçon portait un point de rem...
by clapel
Tue May 23, 2023 10:31 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Parisienne revolutionary period silversmith
Replies: 7
Views: 1844

Re: Parisienne revolutionary period silversmith

Silversmith Maillet Claude Antoine. symbol: eagle. The charge is very interesting. I would like to know if the number to the righ of A is 8.
It's possible to have a more detailed foto? Thank you.
by clapel
Mon May 31, 2021 12:20 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Kalandrin Regie's Marks. Jurande P89 period 23 Sep 89 - 22 Dec 90
Replies: 0
Views: 2570

Kalandrin Regie's Marks. Jurande P89 period 23 Sep 89 - 22 Dec 90

On the night of August 4, 1789, the National Assembly, under rioter's pressure, changed French politics and history, prefiguring the abolition of the feudal rights and Guilds privileges. (1) The Goldsmiths' Guild was also deprived of its prerogatives, including ascertaining the gold and silver title...
by clapel
Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:11 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Kalandrin Regie's Marks. Jurande P88 period
Replies: 0
Views: 2382

Kalandrin Regie's Marks. Jurande P88 period

The J. F. Kalandrin's General Regie, the last of the Ancien Regime, has been troubled by the revolutionary events that have occurred in the six years of his mandate. (1 Jan. 1787 - 31 Dec. 1792) (1) . On 1789 February 21, with the appointment of the Election, Kalandrin was also entrusted to the mark...
by clapel
Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:48 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Kalandrin Regie's Marks. Jurande P88 period
Replies: 1
Views: 2457

Kalandrin Regie's Marks. Jurande P88 period

The J. F. Kalandrin's General Regie, the last of the Ancien Regime, has been troubled by the revolutionary events that have occurred in the six years of his mandate. (1 Jan. 1787 - 31 Dec. 1792) (1) . On 1789 February 21, with the appointment of the Election, Kalandrin was also entrusted to the mark...
by clapel
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:02 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Identifying French Silver Produced 1793-1797
Replies: 2
Views: 2694

Re: Identifying French Silver Produced 1793-1797

Hello MFArgent I add these informations for a deeper discussion of the obscure period 1793-1797. The official marks of Regie J.F. Kalandrin (Charge and Decharge) are characterized by the presence of progressive identification numbers. The Kalandrin's initial plate1789 has been lost but two plaques a...
by clapel
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:33 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 5720

Re: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Hello MGArgent It is very likely that the Timbale mariage was engraved in 1807, even if the LJB mark without a dot is earlier. It is ascertained that Berger worked directly or indirectly through G. Biennais, for the Emperor and his family by providing gobelets, timbales and saucers for various trave...
by clapel
Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:51 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 5720

Re: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Hello MGArgent Yes, that is my proposal. To corroborate the proposal I add that almost all the Orfevres, who produced objects with sanglier 1, recorded the new lozenge mark to the Guarantee and Province (Douet) with a low progressive number. This means in the first days or months of the new register...
by clapel
Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:50 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 5720

Re: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Hello everyone, The study of the L.J.Berger items is very interesting both for its vast production (many pieces have come down to us) and for the operational period with great changes in official marks, still unclear. I add to your observations mine which lead me to hypothesize a new marks classific...
by clapel
Mon May 18, 2020 2:46 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Tabatiere
Replies: 33
Views: 8534

Re: French Tabatiere

You're right Trev, in facts Albert Einstein's theory of relativity is not yet fully proven after more than 100 years and Guglielmo Marconi has theorized the radio waves having observed them. I only made a hypothesis and a request for verification on the Dictionnaire Arminjon not having it available ...
by clapel
Fri May 15, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Tabatiere
Replies: 33
Views: 8534

Re: French Tabatiere

Hi Blacstone,

Could the tabatiere's silversmith be Jacques-Joseph EVRARD? Rue Dauphine 20. Symbol: une massue = a club?.
by clapel
Tue May 12, 2020 6:26 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Tabatiere
Replies: 33
Views: 8534

Re: French Tabatiere

Thank you very much Blakstone, I am waiting, COVID 19 permitting. As for the rest I am convinced that L. brumaire has activated the census (art.LXXXII) and replaced the official punches in force (sanglier 1 and cheval 2) with other new ones too if provisional (Coq A1 and 85 upside down: S8), as soon...
by clapel
Mon May 11, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Tabatiere
Replies: 33
Views: 8534

Re: French Tabatiere

Certainly Blakstone, we will continue to look for it both in Arminjon and in other ways. However the presence of the cheval 2’s mark next to a lozenge confirms that the tabatiere’s Orfevre must have deposited his punch in the period August 1797 - January 7, 1798. It’s also possible that the poinçon ...
by clapel
Sun May 10, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Tabatiere
Replies: 33
Views: 8534

Re: French Tabatiere

Hi Blackstone, The Monnaie's Museum preserves two plaques d'insculpation dated year V with the inscription "Table des Monnaie conformed a l'Arrete du Directoire executive du 21 brumaire an V" (published on Bull. 90 n ° 853 of 11November 1796). However Goldsmiths' records begin on 1 Decembe...
by clapel
Sat May 09, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Tabatiere
Replies: 33
Views: 8534

Re: French Tabatiere

HI, it's necessary to specify that the French tabatiere shows the official horse's head 2 mark, in use from August 1797 to 7 January 1798. This mark is contemporary to the plaque d'insculpation an V, preserved at the Tresor Monnaie Museum, unique in its kind and mentioned by Arminjon in the introduc...
by clapel
Fri May 08, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Tabatiere
Replies: 33
Views: 8534

Re: French Tabatiere

Hi I have identified the maker's mark of your French tabatiere: Henri Edmond Carpentier, symbol blackbird. (see Tableau Douet 1806 n° 287. Orfevre tabatiere rue Cimetiere S. Nicolas 9 Paris.) This tabatiere is very important for the horse's head 2 mark, which is quite rare and attests that the silve...

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