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by Greenwood
Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:01 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Re: Belgian 1831-1868 silversmith hallmark
Replies: 5
Views: 931

Re: Belgian 1831-1868 silversmith hallmark

In 1827 Augustine Joseph Lecocq remarried with Jean Louis Joseph Lecomte. https://www.openarch.nl/abg:eb4c6295-8b66-9e0c-2bc7-2efb8d213ae2 She might have continued her first husband silver workshop after he died in 1825. Hence the hallmarks for period 1832-1869 Peter. Thanks, that's plausible. Of n...
by Greenwood
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:39 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Re: Belgian 1831-1868 silversmith hallmark
Replies: 5
Views: 931

Re: Belgian 1831-1868 silversmith hallmark

Hi, maker's mark LD below a calipers for the Belgian silversmith Louis François Dethier, born in the Belgian city of Mons 11-01-1775, he married Augustine Joseph Lecocq in 1803, and died Mons 16-07-1825, active in Mons 1798- ca 1825. I believe his full name is Louis François Joseph Dethier. See htt...
by Greenwood
Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:19 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Lieselotte Spoon Information Requested
Replies: 4
Views: 1049

Re: Lieselotte Spoon Information Requested

While I can't help you with the marks just yet, as a Dutchman I can guarantee that Lieselotte is definately Dutch in origin, so as a starting point, I would narrow the scope of the search to the Netherlands and Flanders.
by Greenwood
Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:14 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Re: Belgian 1831-1868 silversmith hallmark
Replies: 5
Views: 931

Re: Belgian 1831-1868 silversmith hallmark

Hi all, I'm wondering which silversmith this might be. The ladle is marked with the "Janus" double head and the minerva in a circle for Belgian .800 silver of the period 1831-1868. The maker's mark is a square with L-D below what looks like a caliper. https://imgur.com/jYtE8b4.jpg https://...
by Greenwood
Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:16 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces
Replies: 9
Views: 2754

Re: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces

PS: The Bohrmann pieces are also silverplated. They are marked [B-Candle-B] in a cirlce in a square - [NICKEL] (For Bohmrann's Nickelide line of silver-plated nickel-alloy) and [18] for the plating. According to Nikogosyan, these marks were in use in the 1870's.
by Greenwood
Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:11 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces
Replies: 9
Views: 2754

Re: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces

This coat of arms, which I found with the help of an Italian heraldry site, although not identical to the one on cutlery, nevertheless has many similarities, which makes one think of an Italian family. https://i.postimg.cc/q70JGRHw/zgiacc.jpg Also in this gravy boat, marked Giacchè, there is a hera...
by Greenwood
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:12 am
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces
Replies: 9
Views: 2754

Re: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces

Giacchè is a well-known silversmith, and it is normal that he had blades made with his name for the knives he produced. On the other hand, it is strange to find cutlery produced by three different manufacturers in a flatware chest with Giacchè's logo Indeed, that was my thought exactly. The knives ...
by Greenwood
Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:19 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces
Replies: 9
Views: 2754

Re: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces

Thank you dognose.


The crest:
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The set:
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Logo of Antonio Giacche, Milan on the lid:
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by Greenwood
Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:43 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces
Replies: 9
Views: 2754

Re: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces

I am unable to make the pictures show directly.

The links to the pictures:

The crest: https://imgur.com/x5cdlvk

The set: https://imgur.com/uvqDzjJ
by Greenwood
Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:37 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces
Replies: 9
Views: 2754

Aristocratic "Count" crest on Alfenide cutlery pieces

Good evening all, In my latest case of historic enigma's, I have acquired a 200-piece flatware chest. Most of the pieces are 19th-century and made by Manufacture de L'Alfenide, bearing their mark. Knife-blades are from Antonio Giacche in Milan. The pattern I am unable to find, but what is more curio...
by Greenwood
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:13 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 19
Views: 8163

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

The trail on that leads to Allessio Cesa & Company, legitimate silver makers. Crown trademark. Any chance they were also engaged in silverplate work? Hi Traintime, thank you for your contribution. While the matter of silver/no silver has been resolved, I am still curious about the maker of this...
by Greenwood
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:55 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 19
Views: 8163

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hello all, A final update regarding the cutlery: I sent 4 pieces (1 table fork, 1 table knife, a table spoon and a tea spoon) to a gold-buyers office who had it scanned using x-ray equipment fit to scan metal for the alloy. The results were: - Zinc: 74.8% - Copper: 17.1% - Nickel: 8% There is no sil...
by Greenwood
Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:59 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 19
Views: 8163

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Good evening all, It's been a while, but I've since done some more tests and can now confidently say that this set is a fake of the worst kind. I've bought a new bottle of AG fluid as well as a new magnet, and these have given me the following results: - The fluid does react to the outer layer, albe...
by Greenwood
Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:10 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 19
Views: 8163

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hello all, It might indeed be that my acid has gone bad. I've had it for over a year now, so I'll try to get me another bottle soon. Even then though, the test doesn't react on obvious metals even though it's old. Knife blades and the like stay green, and validated silver pieces turn red in an insta...
by Greenwood
Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:37 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 19
Views: 8163

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hi very interesting. Yes, here in Central Europe you stumble across these ARG800 sets quite regularly. They also pop up on auction platforms etc. Your set has quite a distinctive pattern, different from the normal ARG800 type. And it appears your 800 mark is stamped. Usually the ARG800 mark is part...
by Greenwood
Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:52 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 19
Views: 8163

Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hi all, I've often seen sets marked ARG800/ARG1000/AMZ800 etc. and always knew them to be misleading knockofs, Swiss and Italian tourist pieces of cheap silverplate (not worth my time basically). However, lately I've come across a similair set marked: [AP][800 in a lozenge] - which struck me as pecu...
by Greenwood
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:57 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 2226

Re: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Dear Funkel,

Thank you so much for your precise and detailed answer! And apologies for my late reply. I had not expected to find the answer to my question anymore, so this comes as a pleasant surprise. I will delve into the history of this firm a little deeper. Many thanks
by Greenwood
Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:13 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 2226

Re: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Hi Peter,

I have hereby added 2 enlarged pictures of the hallmarks. The 2nd one is from the handle of the knife.

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by Greenwood
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 2226

Re: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Apologies, here are some working pictures:

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by Greenwood
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 2226

Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Hello everyone! I would like your opinion on the maker's mark on a Spanish silver cutlery place setting. I have searched everywhere without result. I've meticulously went through Miller's Encyclopedia of World Silver Marks but it does not include the mark, unfortunately. Marks it include: - Pentagra...

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