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by Greenwood
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:13 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 18
Views: 1478

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

The trail on that leads to Allessio Cesa & Company, legitimate silver makers. Crown trademark. Any chance they were also engaged in silverplate work? Hi Traintime, thank you for your contribution. While the matter of silver/no silver has been resolved, I am still curious about the maker of this...
by Greenwood
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:55 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 18
Views: 1478

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hello all, A final update regarding the cutlery: I sent 4 pieces (1 table fork, 1 table knife, a table spoon and a tea spoon) to a gold-buyers office who had it scanned using x-ray equipment fit to scan metal for the alloy. The results were: - Zinc: 74.8% - Copper: 17.1% - Nickel: 8% There is no sil...
by Greenwood
Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:59 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 18
Views: 1478

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Good evening all, It's been a while, but I've since done some more tests and can now confidently say that this set is a fake of the worst kind. I've bought a new bottle of AG fluid as well as a new magnet, and these have given me the following results: - The fluid does react to the outer layer, albe...
by Greenwood
Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:10 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 18
Views: 1478

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hello all, It might indeed be that my acid has gone bad. I've had it for over a year now, so I'll try to get me another bottle soon. Even then though, the test doesn't react on obvious metals even though it's old. Knife blades and the like stay green, and validated silver pieces turn red in an insta...
by Greenwood
Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:37 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 18
Views: 1478

Re: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hi very interesting. Yes, here in Central Europe you stumble across these ARG800 sets quite regularly. They also pop up on auction platforms etc. Your set has quite a distinctive pattern, different from the normal ARG800 type. And it appears your 800 mark is stamped. Usually the ARG800 mark is part...
by Greenwood
Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:52 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?
Replies: 18
Views: 1478

Super Inox AP 'fake" silver 800 cutlery?

Hi all, I've often seen sets marked ARG800/ARG1000/AMZ800 etc. and always knew them to be misleading knockofs, Swiss and Italian tourist pieces of cheap silverplate (not worth my time basically). However, lately I've come across a similair set marked: [AP][800 in a lozenge] - which struck me as pecu...
by Greenwood
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:57 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 1227

Re: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Dear Funkel,

Thank you so much for your precise and detailed answer! And apologies for my late reply. I had not expected to find the answer to my question anymore, so this comes as a pleasant surprise. I will delve into the history of this firm a little deeper. Many thanks
by Greenwood
Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:13 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 1227

Re: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Hi Peter,

I have hereby added 2 enlarged pictures of the hallmarks. The 2nd one is from the handle of the knife.

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by Greenwood
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 1227

Re: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Apologies, here are some working pictures:

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by Greenwood
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark
Replies: 5
Views: 1227

Spanish .915 silver cutlery - identifying makers mark

Hello everyone! I would like your opinion on the maker's mark on a Spanish silver cutlery place setting. I have searched everywhere without result. I've meticulously went through Miller's Encyclopedia of World Silver Marks but it does not include the mark, unfortunately. Marks it include: - Pentagra...
by Greenwood
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:55 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Help identifying RC mark on French cutlery (84)
Replies: 6
Views: 1574

Re: Help identifying RC mark on French cutlery (84)

I have searched quite extensively, without result unfortunately. I am inclined to believe it might be Risler & Carré, Paris - although their sign features a star in their sterling hallmark and not a globe. The French silver hallmark library of silvercollection.it features an entry for a French s...
by Greenwood
Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:34 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Help identifying RC mark on French cutlery (84)
Replies: 6
Views: 1574

Re: Help identifying RC mark on French cutlery (84)

Thanks for replying. Where can I find this reference?
by Greenwood
Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Help identifying RC mark on French cutlery (84)
Replies: 6
Views: 1574

Help identifying RC mark on French cutlery (84)

Kindly asking for your assistence in identifying the maker's mark on this presumably French or Belgian cutlery. It has the 84 stamp on the right side of the pieces, flanked by a square maker's mark reading what I believe is "R.C" beneath a ball/globe/balloon of some sort. In some pieces, i...
by Greenwood
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Cherub - Eagle - Cross + 90 (German?) Silverplated Cutlery
Replies: 3
Views: 911

Re: Cherub - Eagle - Cross + 90 (German?) Silverplated Cutlery

Here are the embedded images.

The pieces. The knives bear the same marks albeit even smaller just below the blade.
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Marks on the back of the pieces:
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by Greenwood
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Cherub - Eagle - Cross + 90 (German?) Silverplated Cutlery
Replies: 3
Views: 911

Cherub - Eagle - Cross + 90 (German?) Silverplated Cutlery

Hi all, This is my first post on this forum. I'm an avid collector of silver and plated pieces for years now, and seeing how this is the first time I'm truly at a loss as to the maker of this cutlery set, I decided to register :) I've recently acquired a silverplated cutlery set. The blades are mark...

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