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by davesays
Sun May 22, 2011 11:34 am
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: William Hutton and Family
Replies: 73
Views: 37945

Re: William Hutton and Family

Whoops! No posse of platers visited London in 1831, Just Mr Hutton as one of, if not the leading plater from Birmingham . Sorry for the mistake. Davesays
by davesays
Sat May 21, 2011 12:51 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: William Hutton and Family
Replies: 73
Views: 37945

Re: William Hutton and Family

Hallo Mike, Thank you so much for the fantastic post. You must have a remarkable Hutton archive and I look forward with great interest to future contributions. Do you have a list of the Birmingham platers who came to London in 1831? Thanks again, Davesays
by davesays
Fri May 20, 2011 8:31 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: William Hutton and Family
Replies: 73
Views: 37945

Re: William Hutton and Family

Great to have a Hutton descendant in the forum and sharing all this wonderful detail. The Huttons were in the top tier of platers on steel and other metals and the family connections noted confirm their importance. I wonder if the B P referred to as part of a later mark was British Plate, a nickel b...
by davesays
Wed May 18, 2011 3:39 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Some Birmingham Information and Advertisements
Replies: 757
Views: 341417

Re: Some Birmingham Trade Cards

Mike , Many thanks for the extra information posted re: Thomas Prime. Bradbury p451, give the unregistered marks of J rather than T Prime but no other source. If Thomas Senior had started in 1818 age 21 perhaps it was with his father. He or they must have been active platers long before the introduc...
by davesays
Tue May 17, 2011 4:22 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Some Birmingham Information and Advertisements
Replies: 757
Views: 341417

Re: Some Birmingham Trade Cards

Thomas Prime of Birmingham. I wonder if there is any connection with the Joseph Prime who is noted in Gordon Crosskeys wonderful new work on Sheffield Plate. He notes him as a London ironmonger at 85 Holborn and customer of Sheffield plater Joseph Wilson. Thomas Prime's Birmingham firm was founded 1...
by davesays
Tue May 03, 2011 4:29 am
Forum: Silver Care / Techniques
Topic: How To?
Replies: 5
Views: 4344

Re: How To?

Trev, Many thanks for suggesting approaches to handle repairs. Rather than give what could be, literally, a blow by blow account of the process I would urge caution to forum members and others when it come to unloading handles in general. "Go to a professional", well he would say that woul...
by davesays
Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:29 pm
Forum: Silver Care / Techniques
Topic: How To?
Replies: 5
Views: 4344

Re: How To?

Interesting comments about loose tangs in handles. The "glue" would have been cutlers wax made of various formulations of resin and other materials. If a hole was made in the loading and filled with an inert glue there would be big problems the next person to deal with a loose handle. I es...
by davesays
Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:32 am
Forum: Silver Care / Techniques
Topic: A skewer with no marks.
Replies: 7
Views: 7429

Re: A skewer with no marks.

Further to the last post it may be that the distinct grey apperance to the ring terminal is not a steel core but a shadow! Other comments stand with the addition that if it is silver the ring may require annealing the next time. davesays
by davesays
Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:20 am
Forum: Silver Care / Techniques
Topic: A skewer with no marks.
Replies: 7
Views: 7429

Re: A skewer with no marks.

Hallo! From the excellent photo posted it looks if the skewer may be close plated. (Silver on steel) As there was no need to temper or harden the handle many of these examples show misshaped terminals. A date of c 1810 may be suggested although the style is long lived alongside sterling examples. Ru...
by davesays
Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:00 pm
Forum: London Lost Registers & Unrecorded Marks
Topic: R M on small buckle of around 1730 -1740
Replies: 2
Views: 3909

Re: RM mark - around 1730 -1740

Hallo! Saw this post and thought you might be interested in the following. Some years ago I made a small contribution to the "new" Jacksons. This was on Guildford silversmiths and I still hope to publish a more definitive work on the subject.. Among the research of many years ago I made co...
by davesays
Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:42 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: mystery hallmarks on caddy spoon.
Replies: 5
Views: 2371

Re: mystery hallmarks on caddy spoon.

Excellent views of the Freeth caddy spoon. Would it possible to run a fridge or other magnet over it to confirm the base metal? I assume it is plated on steel but it would be nice to confirm this or not. The possible date letter is interesting as it suggests another maker was involved in their use i...
by davesays
Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:56 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Colmore's Patent Close Plating Method
Replies: 10
Views: 8691

Re: Colmore's Patent Close Plating Method

One further thought about the rise in Birmingham registration in 1807. Bernard Hughes, Antique Sheffield plate 1970, p 12 suggests that the platers applied to "The Assay Office" for permission to strike marks on their wares and also suggests that this was granted in 1806! This would help t...
by davesays
Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:15 am
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Colmore's Patent Close Plating Method
Replies: 10
Views: 8691

Re: Colmore's Patent Close Plating Method

Hallo Dognose, Many thanks for your reply to this query. I was thinking along the lines that, as shown on the photo of the set of knives, Colmore at least on these examples, used or caused to be used a soft solder to adhere the silver foil. Ellis describes what are obviously recipes for grades of ha...
by davesays
Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:22 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Colmore's Patent Close Plating Method
Replies: 10
Views: 8691

Re: Colmore's Patent Close Plating Method

Many thanks for the exellent views of these knives. What was Colmore's patent? How did it vary from that of Ellis of London entered in 1779. It has been suggested to me that Colmore's Patent effectively shut out other close platers until 1807 when we see the rush to register under the 1784 Act . Are...
by davesays
Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:37 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Close Plate Mystery Mark
Replies: 2
Views: 1401

Re: Close Plate Mystery Mark

Hallo! First post. Could this be an unregistered mark of the Birmingham plater Joseph Shepard ? The J may be a human ear! The other mark may be the ear mark overstruck with another. davesays

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