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Thanks, correcting 1874-82

Yes, it has become clear during the discussion when it also became clear that there were several masters involved. Interesting discussion in anyway. Thanks for that.

For the records there were to brothers Carl Jacob Sophilius Møinichen (1815-1877) and Jacob Møinichen (1812-1877) Both graduated as goldsmiths 1843. They managed a common workshop in CPH. They used both a similar punch Peter shows but used not C.I.M. or CIM punches. The person in this thread is ...

It is Stepan Kuzmich Levin in Moscow who had a rather big silverware workshop there (founded 1875) in Moscow. The assayer is as mentioned Ivan Konstantinov 1874-1886.

Irrelevant, the question here is about the CIM mark without dots and an unclear assaying year! Anyway, it could be Moinichen but the year mark is unclear. If...IF it is 90 it is not Moinichen.

Minor amendment: the first figure in unclear of course.

Moinichen known punch has dots: C.I.M. The second figure is hardly 0 because it differs from the first figure that is 0. Most likely it is 9 (1890). If so, it excludes Moinichen.

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Unfortunately your picture is a bit unsharp, so mind my asking but what is the second figure in the CPH,s townmark (0?)

As requested you should always also show a photo of the punch. However, by a coincident I stumbled into this mark searching for another punch so I give you this reply in private.
VJ in Lindesberg in SE is Victor Jansson Guldvaru AB 1941->

Have a nice day

Please read what I wrote about the assayer. It is the assayer's punch that verifies legal silver purity. AЯ is the assayer Aleksandr Yashinov (the exception I mentioned in my answer). He is only verifying legal purity on imported goods.

Unfortunately I cannot identify the new mark you show. It ...

If there is no maker's mark, the object is imported. It was forbidden by law for the assayer to punch his mark if it didn't carry a maker's mark. The only exceptions was imported goods in valuable metals (gold and silver) that was brought to the assay office by the importer for the reason that it ...

Suspicious markings especially the mark with the round shield......kokoshnik or?

Dubious pendant, ....Latin letter (NP.) in a punch from Kostroma??? Russian religious items are often ...very often faked...

Mamefeldts Guld & Silver Ab, Ludvika 1970

See: https://search.swedac.se/sv/namnstampla ... ll&ob=&ps=

This is an a bit unclear case, but ML is most likely goldsmith M, Lundén from the town of Uusikaupunki/Nystad. He was active there 1881-1898. He drowned (1898) during a fishing tour with some other guys. I also had difficulties in finding the answer but I got it from a friend of mine.

Yes, it is Kostroma's mark, BUT! the absence of a maker's mark indicates usually that it is imported goods.

I share Juke's opinion it is fake. Just look at the punches and compare them with the punches on the first object, over stamping, poor handicraft etc etc...Ovchinnikov produced quality not junk.

Peter is probably right but there are two versions of the left looking kokoshnik with big figures. This type of kokshnik was used 1899-1908. Anyway, is it possible to "see" what Cyrillic letters are behind the kokshnik's neck. That could help to identify the assayer and town. That again could help ...

The marks under the Russian import mark are the exporting country's marks. Hardly Lithuanian, but?

Mind me but some times it worth to take a look and read these sites:
https://www.925-1000.com/Frussia.html

Scroll down to headline "Import Marks."......and the other Russian pages too ..... :-)))))))))