Help with marks

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ctree1066
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Help with marks

Postby ctree1066 » Tue May 21, 2019 4:25 pm

Please can someone help with these marks appears to be letter N struck 3 times?

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Re: Help with marks

Postby silvermakersmarks » Tue May 21, 2019 5:17 pm

This appears to be the pre-1697 London maker's mark of Anthony Nelme. It was also used by his son Francis after the restoration of the sterling silver standard in 1723. The use of three maker's marks is often associated with "duty-dodging", i.e. avoidance of assaying and the associated payment of tax.

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Re: Help with marks

Postby amena » Wed May 22, 2019 3:20 am

I have often wondered why a silvermith who commits an offense by "duty-dodging" is so foolish as to accuse himself by putting his personal mark on the piece .....
Can anyone explain it to me?
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Re: Help with marks

Postby juantotree » Wed May 22, 2019 9:31 am

I don't believe pieces marked like this are so called "duty dodgers", as you say it would make no sense to sign your name to a criminal act.

Maybe the item was made for personal use or as a gift to a family member of the silversmith, or possibly a piece of silver brought in by the customer for re-working and therefore no silver is actually being sold, just payment for the labour involved.

Only possibilities of course.
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Re: Help with marks

Postby AG2012 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:45 am

So, the basket in pristine condition is more than 300 years old ?

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Re: Help with marks

Postby ctree1066 » Thu May 23, 2019 2:14 am

Thanks guys, I have my doubts about this piece I can’t help thinking that the base has been let in.

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Re: Help with marks

Postby legrandmogol » Thu May 23, 2019 8:34 am

I've never seen a piece from that era in the Trampe O'iel style before and the engraving seems more like 19th-century neo-rococo. But I could easily stand corrected.


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