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3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:19 pm
by Goldstein
Hi -
found 3 spoons from Riga - but the 3 silversmiths are unknown to me!
AS
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Any help welcome!
Regards
Goldstein
Re: 3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:36 am
by R ingo
Hello Goldstein,
the "AS" mark is from Carl August Schulmann (1852-1918).
Leistikow, p. 330
Best regards,
Ringo
Re: 3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:14 am
by Goldstein
Hi Ringo -
Many thanks! Have not found it in my book....getting old!
Regards
Goldstein
Re: 3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:51 am
by Qrt.S
Not that old :-))))). You will find also him in Latvijas Sudrabkali/Golschmiede Lettlands by Valde Vilite on p.85 #263
Re: 3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:25 pm
by Goldstein
Hi -
without a name, only initials, Vilite is hard to read. Very time consuming! The Russian edition....a big pain!
Do you have a source for Eberhards Jozess/Эбергардт Йозес? Never heared from him - this spoon is the first time in 40 years.
Any way - many thanks for your efforts!
Regards
Goldstein
Re: 3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:07 pm
by Qrt.S
Yes the Russian language causes problems to me too. However, I happen to have Latvian version. About Jozess, take a look in your book above #1159. I cannot guarantee anything but the initials fit perfectly. Unfortunately there is no more information than I wrote in my input.
By the way, in Vilites book there are a lot of names without marks, so.....? In that sense it is better than Leistikow. In her book there is not a single registered master mentioned who's mark is not known.
When taking about Latvijas Sudrabkali, make some amendments in it:
p 12
Haufe's second name is Gottlieb, not Gustav
ИС is Ilja Sorokin 1888-1891, not Ivan Spiridonov, the "phantom".
p 13
ДЛ is Danil Lesenko 1880-1886
ЛЗ Ludvig Zuck's working period was 1844-1847 and 1856-1884
IШ was never in Jelgava/Mitau but in Odessa, Baku and Transkaukasia
Re: 3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:18 pm
by Qrt.S
Forgot to mention: Jozess was located in Ventspils/Windau but there was no assaying office there so he went to Riga in order to have his objects assayed. Therefore the the Riga town mark.
Re: 3 spoons from Riga
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:03 pm
by Goldstein
Hi -
thank you for the update! Some of the from you mentioned things are already corrected in my book (1992 edition). Here a nice directory of the Baltic masters and their marks 1700-1800 from the year 1905.
Regards
Goldstein