Alexander Fuld? or not genuine?

[klingert1974]

I haven't seen any other Russian silver enamel items like this that has what looks like viking ships on it so was wondering could this be real and is it the maker Alexander Fuld?
I have searched lots of Alexander Fuld's items and have only seen just silver items and no enamel.
The only other maker I could find from Moscow is Alexei Frolov who worked from 1860-1897, but the Kokoshnik mark is from Ivan lebedkin and they were from 1898-1914 so leads me back to Alexander Fuld and that's where I am stuck.
I also have factored in it could just be a total fake so am prepared for that. Also there is heaps of enamel damage on the sides of the case and a tiny bit on the top so I was wondering if it was real, could I get it restored?




Thankyou.

[AG2012]

Sorry, but better enamel was made in Limoges in 12th century.
You cannot restore enamel, it`s actually glass; when broken it`s broken for good.

[klingert1974]

Ok no worries. Thank you :)

[Qrt.S]

Nether do I and I'm sorry, but the object you show is a fake and has has nothing to do with imperial Russia.

[AG2012]

Thinking again; Alexander Fuld made nice cigarette cases. In general, there are many badly damaged pieces out there with lost memorabilia and monograms in gold. Then you have scrap silver worth repairing but this attempt with enamel is really clumsy. Red arrows point to the holes drilled to rivet the applications (as far as I suspect). If so, they are visible inside, too. In a word, it might, just might, be a genuine AF mark with unbelievably bad enameling to deceive.
Regards

[Qrt.S]

@AG2012

Take a look at the hallmark. It is faked. Compare it with this genuine one below. Pay especially attention to the line from chin to ear. It is one line only! Note also that the initials are out of line.

[AG2012]

Thanks for reminding me to watch more carefully; chin line always extends to the ear. Now I remember your post several years ago:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&start=20

[Qrt.S]

No problem, you are welcome. I must say that I had completely forgotten that input. However, I must amend it a bit. The law regarding first kokshnik is stipulated as from 1.1.1896 but the kokshnik with small figures in itself is implemented during the latter part of 1898 an used to 31.12.1898 only. As from 1.1.1899 the new kokshnik with big figures is implemented and the small figure kokshnik discarded. Sorry, off topic...

This enameled object with its phony marks is anyway a spurious object!

[AG2012]

Thanks again. Have reviewed all kokoshnik marks I have and you are 100% right about that line running from the chin and the ear lobe. No matter what assay office, it`s really always a continuous line and assayer`s initials are well aligned with head contour. That should be accepted as a rule of thumb, I suppose.
Have a nice day