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another swiss silver watch help please

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:53 am
by tyvm30
guys, please kindly give some help, i have 2 watches very similar, but don't know much about them.

1.i guess Swiss watches 0.935 as has a bear mark.
2.how to identify the date? i did some search only narrow to 1880-1907.
3.what is the makers mark? i tried but can't find any info relative...

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many thanks