Identification Help, please

[patack]

I recently purchased this beautiful silver piece and now I am trying to identify it. There is so much information on this site, and after spending a lot of time "trying" to figure out anything about maker, type of piece, etc. I thought I should ask some experts. The patent on this is 1915. I believe it is some kind of barware, perhaps a shaker with a spout (which has issues).
If anyone can assist with identification, I would be most grateful.
Thank you,
Pat

P.S. I do have photos, but I can't seem to find an insert and upload.

[dognose]

Hi,

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Trev.

[patack]

Hi, Dognose.... I thought I had, but thanks for the upload info. It appears that Imagehost.org is closed and the other you posted doesn't do it.
I have posted photos that I uploaded to Flickr which also don't appear to work, but we'll see if you can follow the link?

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Thank you.

[dognose]

Hi,

That is indeed a cocktail shaker. The maker was E.G. Webster & Son of New York.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_W.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

E.G. Webster & Son became part of International Silver in 1928 and production was moved to Meriden. They became Webster-Wilcox in 1961 and in 1981 they were acquired by Oneida.

Trev.

[patack]

Boy! That was fast.
So, it is American Silver.

I thought that first mark was a clover. All these marks confuse me.
Question: Standing Lion passant - is the difference between solid and outline, sterling and plate?

Last question. The patent date on this is 1915. Do you think this was made in 1915?
It's a shame that the spout is not perfect (and there must have been some type of knob as well).

Thank you so much!
pat

[dognose]

The letter EPNS (Electro Plated Nickel Silver) indicate that the item is silver plated.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/silverglossary2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The marks are Webster's trade marks only. They are not hallmarks.

As for the dating of the item, 1915, of course, would be the earliest possible date, they may have made them for several years, but I guess this would be around about the right date for the piece.

Hopefully someone with better knowledge of Webster's products can add something.

Trev.

[patack]

Trev...

not sure what you mean by this... "The marks are Webster's trade marks only. They are not hallmarks"

Could you elaborate, please.

Thank you!

[dognose]

Hi Pat,

Hallmarks are the marks applied onto solid silver items by an assay office. Plated items are often applied with trade marks, these are not hallmarks, but often they can be very similar and cause confusion, they are in no way official marks, only, in some cases, imitations of hallmarks.

Trev.

[patack]

Thank you Trev. I'll have to digest that lol

This has been an education.

All best, and my sincere thanks,
Pat