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Old BIESNER Spoon with Oak Leaf Decorated Rat-tail INFO

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:55 pm
by DHay
I am new to the world of silver, and was wanting to find some information on this spoon's maker. The spoon has a rat-tail, that has been decorated with an oak leaf motif. The spoon has etched decorations with "1824" on the spoon. The spoon appears to be stamped "BIESNER." The spoon measures 8-3/4" long. Thanks for any info.

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Re: Old BIESNER Spoon with Oak Leaf Decorated Rat-tail INFO

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:20 am
by R ingo
Hello DHay,

surely the engraved marksmen-target on the handle shows, that the spoon was a prize on a marksmen's festival. Such engraved marksmen-targets and engraved young rat tails after 1800 I know from Northern Germany. Old-fashioned looking spoons were often used as such prize ( like this from 1804 http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... che#p44739 ).

Unfortunately I know no gold smith named Biesner. But in Greifswald, Northern Germany, was a goldsmith Johann Heinrich Julius BIESENER (born about 1778, Master 1803). This fits quite good. May be he is it.

Kind regards, Ringo

Re: Old BIESNER Spoon with Oak Leaf Decorated Rat-tail INFO

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:26 pm
by Theoderich
this spoon have no hallmark

I do not exactly the hallmark of Greifswald from 1824
there was an exchange vom this hallmark
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to the griffyn mark
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But I can say: that this kind of rat tail engraving with leaf frame is typical for Greifswald spoons in this time.
So I think Ringo is right.