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Some Sheffield Advertisements and Information

Postby dognose » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:21 pm

Hi,

Here are some Sheffield trade cards taken from "The Sheffield Directory and Guide". By Henry Blackwell 1828.


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Thomas Champion & Son, 37,High Street, Sheffield.

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Dixon & Son, Cornish Place, Sheffield.

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Fentem, Webster & Danby, 44, Howard Street, Sheffield.

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Joseph Rodgers & Sons, 6, Norfolk Street, Sheffield.

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Postby dognose » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:36 am

Some more examples of advertisments issued by Sheffield manufacturers in 1837.

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James Dixon & Sons, Cornish Place, Sheffield.

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Broadhead & Atkin, North Street Works, North Street, Sheffield.

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Richard & Thomas Otley, Truro Place, Trafalgar Street, Sheffield.

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Joseph Wolstenholme, Broad Street, Park, Sheffield.

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Postby dognose » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:54 pm

Early advertisment for Joseph Mappin from 1850.

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Joseph Mappin registered with the Sheffield Assay Office in 1833 as Joseph Mappin & Son. The mark entered was 'JM' within an oval.

Source: History, Gazetteer, and Directory, of Warwickshire
By Francis White & Co.--1850


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Postby dognose » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:35 pm

Advertisment for Edwin John Makin from 1867.

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This advert reads to me that Makin has taken over the business of Hawksley as he incorporates the 'GH & Co' into his Trademark.

George Hawksley entered marks with the Sheffield Assay Office in 1856, 1858 and 1864.

Edwin John Makin entered his mark at the Sheffield Assay Office in 1867.

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Postby MCB » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:41 am

Hello Trev,
To fill in a little more detail on the businesses identified above the following also registered as silversmiths with the Sheffield Assay Office:
Thomas Champion & Son entered a mark in 1826 of "TC & S" in a corner cut square with a pellet after "T".
J Dixon & Son entered their first mark from Silver Street in 1829 of "D&S" in a rectangle; their second in 1867 from Cornish Place was of "JD&S" in a butterfly shape.
Fentem Webster & Danby entered a mark in 1824 of "FW&D" in a square with a pellet after "F".
Joseph Rodgers & Son entered their first mark in 1812 of "IR" in a square with a pellet between the initials; they entered two more marks in 1843, both of "JR", one in a quatrefoil, the other in a rectangle with a pellet between the initials. They entered a third mark in 1858 of "JR" in a rectangle without a pellet.
Charles Frederick Younge entered a mark in1836 of "CFY" in a rectangle with a pellet after both "C" & "F".
Joseph Wolstenholme entered a mark in 1850 of "JW" without a surrounding shape but with a pellet between the initials.
George Hawksley & Co entered their first mark of "GH" above "CH" in a square; the second of "GH" in a rectangle; the third of "GH&Co" in a rectangle with a bar below the "O". Their business address was 30/32 Charlotte Street and you may wll be right that Machin took over.
For completeness E J Machin's mark was of three separate shapes one for each initial.
The only mark I can find for Otley is the one registered in1878 by Thomas Otley & Son of Meadow Street a shield shape with "TO" above "TSO".
Broadhead & Aitken do not seem to have registered a mark.

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Postby dognose » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:13 pm

Hi Mike,

Many thanks for the information, it's most useful.

I've just come across a reference that Hawksley's factory was known as the 'Charlotte Street Works'. With Makin using the same address, it must surely confirm that he's taken over Hawksley's business.

An advertisment in the 'Sheffield Daily Telegraph' in 1865 reads: "Wanted, a good German Silver Buffer. Apply Geo. Hawksley and Co., Charlotte Street Works."

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Postby dognose » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:00 pm

An advertisment for John Round & Son from 1880.

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John Round, a former employee of William Hutton & Sons, was an amazingly successful man, he started his business from his own house in 1847, and by the time of his death, thirty years later in 1877, he and his son Edwin, had made John Round & Son one of the largest manufacturing silversmiths and electroplaters in the world.

At the time of this advertisment the directors of John Round & Sons Ltd were Henry Pawson, Joseph Gamble and J W Barber. They had become a limited company in July 1874.

John Round & Son entered their mark at the Sheffield Assay Office in 1867.

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Postby dognose » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:13 am

An advertisment from 1880 for James Dixon & Sons that confirms the use of the 'Trumpet' Trade Mark as from October 1879.

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Edwin John Makin and George Hawksley

Postby catcowan » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:58 pm

Could anyone please advise what happened to this company as I believe that Edwin John Makin was a slate merchant who became bankrupt soon after 1870.
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Postby 2209patrick » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:46 am

I'm confused about this Makin and Hawksley connection also.

My references show George Hawksley & Company moving to Carver Street in 1866.
They ceased to be listed among electroplaters in 1867.
( Source: The Identification and Dating of Sheffield Electroplated Wares 1843-1943 by E.R. Matheau-Raven.)

On April 10, 1889, G. & J.W. Hawksley Ltd. entered a mark at Sheffield showing 75 Carver Street, Sheffield, as an address.
G. & J.W. Hawksley Ltd. also entered a mark on March 15, 1900, with Carver Works, Carver Street as an address.
(Source: The Sheffield Assay Office Register.)

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Postby dognose » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:33 am

Hi Pat,

The firms of Long, Hawksley & Co. of 220, Rockingham Street, Sheffield, and Taylor George Hawksley & Brother, of Times Works, 23, Paradise Street, Sheffield, both listed as Table Cutlery Manufacturers are, perhaps, to be identified with the original company. They both appear in various listings in 'Kelly's Directory of the Watch & Clock Trade 1880'

Hi Catherine,

Welcome to the Forum.

Do you have any references that link the Slate Merchant to the Silver plater? I just wondered, if for sure, that we are talking about the same person.

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Edwin John Makin and George Hawksley & Co

Postby catcowan » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:49 am

Thanks for all your prompt responses. Trev, the 1901 Census shows Edwin John Makin as a retired slate merchant (the census return names him as John E Makin, but as his wife and all the children are correct it clearly is a typographical error). His son is named as Edwin C. S. Makin, aged 26 and his occupation is given as Silver Hammerer and Polisher.
Following the death of his steel manufacturer father William Makin owner of William Makin & Sons of Attercliffe and Hillfoot, Edwin John Makin became the majority shareholder in the company. Not long afterwards he leaves Wm Makin (don't know why) and all subsequent censuses show him as a slate merchant.
I initially thought it was another Edwin John Makin, but checks of births etc, doesn't show any other person of that name.
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Postby dognose » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:09 am

In 1866 Edwin John Makin became sole owner of George Hawksley & Co. A notice of his dissolution of partnership with one Henry Storr appeared thus:

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The Post of Directory of Sheffield 1854 lists William Makin as a steel converter, refiner & worker, manufacturer of rag & engine roller bars, bottom plates, knives for papermakers, cast steel flies, millers' chisels, chaff knives tic. steel forger & rolling mills, Attercliffe steel works, Attercliffe, & Clifton steel works.

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Postby dognose » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:54 am

An advertisment for William Mammatt published in 1862.

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My limited references for Sheffield show that William Mammatt entered his mark at the Sheffield Assay Office in 1876, that was followed in 1885 by an entry for William Mammatt & Son. The only other mention, perhaps to be identified with William, is in 1865, when a firm by the name of Mammatt, Buxton & Co entered their mark at Sheffield. There may well have been a previous entry pre-1862, but unknown to me at present.

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Postby 2209patrick » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:51 am

Hi Trev. Thanks for posting these trade cards.

My references confirm your information.
Could not find an earlier entry for Mammatt in my copy of "The Sheffield Assay Office Register".
Did find a later entry for George Mammatt, July 4, 1906.

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Postby dognose » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:28 am

Hi Pat,

Many thanks for the confirmation.

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Postby dognose » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:20 am

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Pat wrote: My references show George Hawksley & Company moving to Carver Street in 1866.
They ceased to be listed among electroplaters in 1867.
( Source: The Identification and Dating of Sheffield Electroplated Wares 1843-1943 by E.R. Matheau-Raven.)
On April 10, 1889, G. & J.W. Hawksley Ltd. entered a mark at Sheffield showing 75 Carver Street, Sheffield, as an address.
G. & J.W. Hawksley Ltd. also entered a mark on March 15, 1900, with Carver Works, Carver Street as an address.
(Source: The Sheffield Assay Office Register.)


The above advertisment is from 1878 may help fill some of the gap in George Hawksley's business timeframe.

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Postby dognose » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:22 pm

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George Shadford Lee and Henry Wigfull entered marks at the Sheffield Assay Office in 1878 and 1879. The partnership was disolved in 1879, with George Lee departing and the business was carried on by Henry Wigfull, the company name, however, stayed the same.

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William Wheatcroft Harrison entered marks at the Sheffield Assay Office in 1861 and 1866. William Harrison had formerly been in partnership with Thomas Creswick.

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John Harrison entered marks at the Sheffield Assay Office in 1833 and 1844. He was the father of William Wheatcroft Harrison (see above). John was also a partner in William's business until his retirement in 1858. Following John's retirement, William entered into a partnership with John Maleham Harrison, this was disolved in 1870, after which William Harrison carried on at the Montgomery Works and John Maleham Harrison at the Norfolk Works.
There is a further entry in Jacksons (p.450) for a 1866 entry at the SAO for J. Harrison & Co.

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Long Hawksley andCo. HG Long and Co

Postby aussie research » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:56 am

Hello,
i was amazed to find this posting after receiving some family research that dates back to 1954, suggesting that the family that I am researching, who moved to Ireland around 1820, had a gun manufacture business in Sheffield, named as above.

"According to Joseph Hawksley of 17 Battle Mead, Swanage, Dorset in correspondence with Arthur Heath in 1967, all people of this name come from a small 30 square emile area in the border area of Derbyshire, Notts and Lincs".

Any further information that you have regarding this bussiness would be greatly appreciated.

I was interested in finding out of any items that may be for sale that carry the Hawklsey Mark or Hawksley and Long mark. Please contact the writer should anyone know of a piece available.

One last quote regading the posts for Goerge Hawksley and Co. Find attached a copy of the research that lead me to this page, once agin thanks for the info and cards, to all submitters.

"Robert Hawksley claimed relitives in Sheffield, England: a firm of Hawksley had a gun making business at Sheffield for one hundred and six years; the firm later became Long and Hawksley & Co., and then H.G. Long and Co".

Kind regads,

Aussie research


MCB wrote:Hello Trev,
To fill in a little more detail on the businesses identified above the following also registered as silversmiths with the Sheffield Assay Office:
Thomas Champion & Son entered a mark in 1826 of "TC & S" in a corner cut square with a pellet after "T".
J Dixon & Son entered their first mark from Silver Street in 1829 of "D&S" in a rectangle; their second in 1867 from Cornish Place was of "JD&S" in a butterfly shape.
Fentem Webster & Danby entered a mark in 1824 of "FW&D" in a square with a pellet after "F".
Joseph Rodgers & Son entered their first mark in 1812 of "IR" in a square with a pellet between the initials; they entered two more marks in 1843, both of "JR", one in a quatrefoil, the other in a rectangle with a pellet between the initials. They entered a third mark in 1858 of "JR" in a rectangle without a pellet.
Charles Frederick Younge entered a mark in1836 of "CFY" in a rectangle with a pellet after both "C" & "F".
Joseph Wolstenholme entered a mark in 1850 of "JW" without a surrounding shape but with a pellet between the initials.
George Hawksley & Co entered their first mark of "GH" above "CH" in a square; the second of "GH" in a rectangle; the third of "GH&Co" in a rectangle with a bar below the "O". Their business address was 30/32 Charlotte Street and you may wll be right that Machin took over.
For completeness E J Machin's mark was of three separate shapes one for each initial.
The only mark I can find for Otley is the one registered in1878 by Thomas Otley & Son of Meadow Street a shield shape with "TO" above "TSO".
Broadhead & Aitken do not seem to have registered a mark.

Regards,
Mike

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Postby MCB » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:14 pm

Hello,
It's good to see our research being put to uses other than silvermaking.
The Sheffield Assay Office register shows H G Long & Co entering a mark from 220 Rockingham Street, Sheffield in 1894 and another as a limited company in 1906.
There's nothing in the register for Long & Hawkesley & Co.
As G & J Hawksley Ltd entered a mark with Sheffield in 1900 from Carver Street Sheffield it looks as though this was a company separate from H G Long & Co.
It's coincidence that the area you mention is close by me. For information the three cities of Sheffield, Nottingham and Derby were historically largely separated by the Sherwood Forest. It's about 40 miles from Sheffield to both Nottingham and Derby and 16 miles between the latter two, a relatively small triangle as you say, and not so heavily populated especially in the past which should help your research.
By the way despite all claims to the contrary Robin Hood was a Nottinghamshire lad!
Best wishes
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