*NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

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klingsheim
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*NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby klingsheim » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:49 am

Hello All,

I have officially exhausted all outlets to discover the maker mark and age on this. As Japanese is not a language I am at all familiar with I have been attempting to translate many sites and have had no luck. It has a gold chrysanthemum flower (which is the Japanese seal?) on it that I hope I am not wrong in assuming it is pure as well?
This vase is massive - 1500+ grams and I think contains the "Pure Silver" mark at the top and them the bottom would be the signature.

Any and all help would be very much appreciated!

It is similar to this Vase (Obviously the flower is different, I don't have an actual photo of the entire thing, waiting on my mom whom only sent the picture of the marks)
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Here are the photos of the marks.
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Thanks,
Klingsheim

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Re: *NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby davidross » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:35 am

Welcome to the Forum.

I can only speak for the limitations of my own mental powers, which the OP has confounded with an overwhelming sense of deja vu. I find it very confusing when someone crops a photo previously posted here by another member and reposts it as a different object and writes "it is similar to this..." because I know I have seen the very same object before, but with different marks:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33979&p=87440&hilit=vase#p87440

"Similar" is not particularly helpful where either marks or family crests are concerned, since even a seemingly minor difference may point to very different conclusions. If your mother can manage to take a photo of the mark on the bottom of the vase, surely she can take a few photos of the entire object.

Please post original photos of the actual item.

DR

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Re: *NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby klingsheim » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:03 pm

Here are the photos of the actual vase. Thanks for your help.

Do you think you can decipher the signatures and marks?

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Klingsheim

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Re: *NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby davidross » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:46 am

The mark is read Kobayashi. Probably a retailer rather than a maker.

Hope this helps.

DR

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Re: *NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby klingsheim » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:50 am

Indeed it does. Thanks so much.

Since it is not made by an artist and more of a retailer does that mean that the chrysanthemum is not a crest but just the seal of Japan?

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I appreciate your insight!

Klingsheim

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Re: *NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby davidross » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:26 am

Upon further research, this is the mark of D. Kobayashi, active ca 1930s.

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Re: *NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby klingsheim » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:31 am

Thank you very much Mr. Ross.
Your information has allowed me to find similar cases and more information about the maker. I sincerely appreciate your help.

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Re: *NEW TO SITE* Japanese? Pure Silver Vase with Gold Flower need help with maker

Postby davidross » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:59 am

The Forum is a place to share information, so by all means, please let us know what you have found out about D. Kobayashi.

I have already posted what I know in the CES Far East Trade topic under Contributors' Notes.

Regards,
DR


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