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Which country?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:19 am
by amena
Hello
I would like to identify this chalice. It doesn't seem Italian to me, but I don't know which other country. Maybe Spanish?
Any information will be appreciated.
Thanks for attention
Amena
Re: Which country?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:17 pm
by AG2012
Hi,
The mark on the left looks looks like the coat of arms of Madrid (a bear and a tree).
Regards
Re: Which country?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:57 am
by amena
Thank you for your contribution, AG2012. It seems that the clues lead to Spain, but at the moment there is no evidence ...
Regards
Amena
Re: Which country?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:34 am
by legrandmogol
I couldn't see the marks earlier but I think your piece is from Belgium. I would ask Peter (OEL) as he is very knowledgeable on silver from the lowlands.
Re: Which country?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:40 am
by legrandmogol
From my limited resources I think it's from Brussels to be more exact but again I would wait for more knowledgeable members to comment.
Re: Which country?
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:54 am
by oel
Hi,
Brussels, I do not thinks so. I fail to see the lion rampant and the head of St. Michiel with the cross .
For 18th century Brussels silver see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... ls#p134227
The mark in the middle, 2nd mark could it be a deformed hand(?) for Antwerpen .
Unfortunately I have no access to my library.
Peter
Re: Which country?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:41 pm
by oel
Hi Amena,
Not Antwerpen but Mechelen.
Back home and checked my library. The book
Silver in Belgium 1500-1800 by Piet Baudouin, Pierre Colman & Dorsan Goethals shows it is the town mark of
Mechelen (Malines); the city coat of arms, a pale with a shield bearing an eagle, is in use from the end of the 15th century
The year letter for 1775; 75 crowned is as it should be for Mechelen 1775
The maker's mark could be a beaker/vase/flower pot and perhaps for Antoon de Raedt (1727-1818) . Waiting for confirmation by Diva.
Best,
Peter
Re: Which country?
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:26 pm
by oel
Yes, confirmed maker's mark a beaker/cup or mortar(?) for Antoon de Readt
http://www.divaantwerp.be/nl/collection ... l:de-raedt#
Gratitude;
Dr. Wim Nys
Head of Collections and Research DIVA, Museum voor Edelsmeedkunst, Juwelen en Diamant in Antwerpen (Antwerp), Belgium
DIVA. Antwerp Home of Diamonds.
Peter.
Re: Which country?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:33 am
by amena
Hi Peter .
Your knowledge is really great !
Thanks for the comprehensive answer.
Amena