Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

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Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby elcid51 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:37 am

Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith and City (Mons?) of the cruet.
Thanks,
Guido
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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby Dendriet » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:05 am

Hi,

I think it should be Brugge / Bruges.

Unfortunately, at this moment I can not have the books

But then I may have put this in the right direction.

There are others who have also these books.

Good luck

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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby Traintime » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:10 am

Is this the town mark..crowned lion left facing for Brugge: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=45457&p=132729&hilit=brugge#p132729

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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby Dendriet » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:32 am

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Traintime wrote:Is this the town mark..crowned lion left facing for Brugge: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=45457&p=132729&hilit=brugge#p132729




If I had the books available for inspection, I would have placed a picture of it.
(I'm on my way)
Now you show a distorted picture of a Town mark Brugge, which only causes doubt.

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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby elcid51 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:49 am

Thank you all for the news provided, do you also know the silversmith?
Thank you and greetings,
Guido

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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby oel » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:34 am

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No doubt and indeed Brugge/Bruges: town mark lion head crowned, Gothic b for Brugge, year letter crowned 89 for 1789.
Unfortunately the makers mark MB conjoined is unknown. Mentioned in the book Belgische Zilvermerken, R. Stuyck #1464, seen on coffee pot with year letter for 1782.

See:

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=45457&p=132729#p132729


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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby elcid51 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:35 am

Thank you Peter best regards,
Guido

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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby Traintime » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:15 pm

Sorry Dendriet..it was the only reference point found in search function. Thankfully Peter was able to confirm the authenticity by his postings. Should be helpful for future questions to have links, even to poor samples (which can then be dissected further if needed).

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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby Dendriet » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:33 pm

Traintime wrote:Sorry Dendriet..it was the only reference point found in search function. Thankfully Peter was able to confirm the authenticity by his postings. Should be helpful for future questions to have links, even to poor samples (which can then be dissected further if needed).



No, it was also a frustrated reaction from me because I did not get all the pictures on my screen, and Peter's copy from the book, which was not included.
In retrospect, it was an unnecessary reaction.
I saw it when I returned home
Sorry.

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Re: Please help me identify the Belgian silversmith of the cruet

Postby oel » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:50 am

Correction:
The Master MB, identified as Michiel Bulcke, several works are known, including a brandy spoon and a medicine boat from 1783, table candlesticks from 1784 and a chocolate jug from 1785 (source; Meesterwerken van de Brugse Edelsmeedkunst, 1993, p. 335-336, 340, 342 nr. 427, 429, 436, 439)). For further biographical information see the work of Walter van Dievoet Brugse edelsmeden van het ancien régime (Brussels, 2014).

Peter.


Gratitude:Dr. Wim Nys
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