Please help identify silver hallmark/maker's mark on portuguese champagne bucket

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Gerox
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Please help identify silver hallmark/maker's mark on portuguese champagne bucket

Postby Gerox » Thu May 03, 2018 5:19 pm

Hello All,
There is an old champagne bucket, portuguese silver.
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The guarantee mark 1886-1938 (Boar and I) excludes 916 silver fineness and the Assay Office Lisbon.
Another hallmark is the letter “F” and the maker's mark is a “lying sphinx above the letter L”.
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In addition, there is the brand "1º título" and the brand "LEITAO 8,13".
What do these brands mean?
Is silver fineness 916 or 813?
I'm hoping one of you knows the maker “ a lying sphinx above the letter L”.
As always, any help will be greatly appreciated.
Gerox

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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark/maker's mark on portuguese champagne bucket

Postby AG2012 » Fri May 04, 2018 3:04 am

Hi,
This is the mark of LEITAO & IRMAO. Sometimes they use abbreviated form of the mark LEITAO & IR seen in your image.
Compare with this:

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They are still in business.
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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark/maker's mark on portuguese champagne bucket

Postby AG2012 » Fri May 04, 2018 3:13 am

Lisbon
1886-1938
Big articles: Boar and Roman numeral I = silver fineness .916

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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark/maker's mark on portuguese champagne bucket

Postby Gerox » Fri May 04, 2018 2:05 pm

AG2012 wrote:Lisbon
1886-1938
Big articles: Boar and Roman numeral I = silver fineness .916

Hi AG 2012,
thank you for your quick reply. It is very appreciated.
Great with the manufacturer brand!
Boar and Roman numeral I = silver fineness .916 is o.k., but what is meant with
"1º título" and the brand "LEITAO 8,13", can you help me please?
Best regards
Gerox

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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark/maker's mark on portuguese champagne bucket

Postby Gerox » Fri May 04, 2018 2:25 pm

Gerox wrote:
AG2012 wrote:Lisbon
1886-1938
Big articles: Boar and Roman numeral I = silver fineness .916

Hi AG 2012,
thank you for your quick reply. It is very appreciated.
Great with the manufacturer brand!
Boar and Roman numeral I = silver fineness .916 is o.k., but what is meant with
"1º título" and the brand "LEITAO 8,13", can you help me please?
Best regards
Gerox

oh my god what am i stupid.... not "LEITAO 8,13" but "LEITAO & IR" o.k. now I understand it!
Best regards
Gerox


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