Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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Gerox
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Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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Hello All,
There is a beautiful, I think Venetian gondola 930 silver.
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Hallmarked 930 and unidentified mark on the bottom.
On the side English import mark: Samuel Boyce Landeck – London, Sheffield Assay Office, Lion passant, sterling silver (925); Sheffield Date Letter: e =1897
I can't identify the silver hallmark, maker's mark on the bottom.
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Can anybody help me with the determination of the manufacturer?
For any help I would be very grateful. Thank you!

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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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Hi, it is a yet unidentified Hanau Germany pseudo mark made for export to Great Britain. There is a wonderful section on Hanau silver in the World Marks, Germany section of this wonderful website. Samuel Boyce Landeck is even listed as a known importer of Hanau Silver
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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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legrandmogol wrote:Hi, it is a yet unidentified Hanau Germany pseudo mark made for export to Great Britain. There is a wonderful section on Hanau silver in the World Marks, Germany section of this wonderful website. Samuel Boyce Landeck is even listed as a known importer of Hanau Silver
Hi legrandmogol,
Thanks for your quick reply. Perfect.
Hanau had not come to my mind, did not think that a Hanau silversmith end of the 19th century just selects a Venetian gondola as a motive.
thanks again
Best regards
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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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legrandmogol wrote:Hi, it is a yet unidentified Hanau Germany pseudo mark made for export to Great Britain. There is a wonderful section on Hanau silver in the World Marks, Germany section of this wonderful website. Samuel Boyce Landeck is even listed as a known importer of Hanau Silver
Hi legrandmogol,
again to the mark.
I searched on the Hanaupage but do not find this brand there.
It is also not to be found under „Unattributed Pseudo-Marks on Hanau Style Silver“
Are you sure that this is a Hanau brand?
I found the importer Samuel Boyce Landeck.
Has Landeck perhaps also imported silver from other countries?
I have a doubt that this is a Hanau brand.
Best regards
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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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it is possible it is from another country but the 930 silver purity mark is almost certainly German. Most of the Dutch "Fakes" would be marked with genuine Dutch marks rather than a 930, also this is more in the Hanau Wheelhouse. They created a wide variety of fantasy items. Finally, There are many many unattributed Hanau marks. This website only lists a handful.
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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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legrandmogol wrote:it is possible it is from another country but the 930 silver purity mark is almost certainly German. Most of the Dutch "Fakes" would be marked with genuine Dutch marks rather than a 930, also this is more in the Hanau Wheelhouse. They created a wide variety of fantasy items. Finally, There are many many unattributed Hanau marks. This website only lists a handful.
Hi legrandmogol,
Thanks again, yes, that's logical and could fit.
However, I would not have focused on Dutch, more on Italy, because I still can´t believe that a Hanau silversmith produces by hand (processing no factory product) a Venetian gondola and then these are exported.
I have not seen such or similar work from Hanau yet, but a lot of other great Hanau motives.
But you are absolutely right, the 930 suits Germany rather than Italy and the importer also refers to Hanau.
thanks again
best regards
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Re: Please help identify silver hallmark, maker's mark on Venetian gondola

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I would abandon the idea of Italy, because of the 930, and also because that boat does not look like a gondola and the person does not look like a gondolier.
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