Bulgarian alms plate?

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Swineherd
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Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby Swineherd » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:27 pm

Would appreciate help in locating the origin of this handsome alms plate.
Holy men described in something akin to cyryllic but it is not russian alphabet.
Hallmark seems to indicate a letter B for Bulgaria. The other-sign of a wheat ear?

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Have no experience of the balkan hallmarks whatsoever.

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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby Theoderich » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:24 pm

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interesting


Swineherd
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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby Swineherd » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:45 pm

Thank you, the letter B sat on 3 legs mark is quite similar. However, the picture of silver open mussel does reveal in part written in cyryllic word: Konstanza .That is a place in Rumania!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constan%C8%9Ba

The plot thickens.

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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby AG2012 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:46 am

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If you are referring to this picture there are too many Greek letters and what looks like Konstanca is most probably the name Konstantin. Besides, Cyrillic alphabet is not used in Romania except on sacral objects (St Jacob and St Simon here). On the other hand, St Simon is written with Ω (omega) in Greek.Still, I opt for Greek provenance of this plate.They make sacral objects for all neighboring Orthodox churches. Although nicely hand engraved it`s not very old.
Regards

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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby Swineherd » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:25 am

Thank you for your contribution. Also, when looking at the plate now, hanging elsewhere on the wall, I cannot help to notice that it has turned black! That makes me suspect the high purity of silver(950)alleged in those hallmarks. As the old Homer would say:Beware of the Greeks bearing gifts...to tourists.

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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby twooddsocks » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:49 am

I have recently purchased a snuff box showing identical marks to those posted by Theoderich.
Any suggestions as to origin welcome. Additionally my box is marked "1 & 20 BIZ" which I understand is an abbreviation for the German Jewish wish that you "live to be 120"

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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby dognose » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:04 am

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Please start a new topic with images of your item and the marks.

Trev.

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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby twooddsocks » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:18 am

I have made some progress with these marks.

Looking at those posted by others on this topic, especially Theoderich, it seems that the mark indicates '100 g', which derives from a German flatware standard. So this would indicate that we are dealing with a silver plate mark, where the '100 g' relates to the thickness of the plating.

I will post again if I can identify the maker.

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Re: Bulgarian alms plate?

Postby dragonflywink » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:00 pm

Please see this post regarding this mark: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=54106


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