KANDLER, Charles II (Grimwade p.567)

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Thanks to members Juke and MCB we have a copy of the will of this enigmatic silversmith - see http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 48&t=33026

Will of Charles Kandler of Vine Street , Middlesex proved at PCC on 27 June 1807 [TNA/ PROB 11/1463/308]

The documents produced to the Court appears to be an incomplete testamentary document, in Latin , and a translation into English by a Notary Public.
It gives £10 to an executor, £25 to his mother, £25 to his sister and an extra £300 to his sister after the death of his widow. None of these people are named and although supposedly dated 15 December 1797 I suspect it may be a later codicil to a missing original will of that date. It was unsigned and unwitnessed - hence a requirement to verify the handwriting .

On 20 June 1807 at the PCC, Thomas Charles Blandford of Broad Street, Golden Square in the County of Middlesex, Gentleman and Joseph Thomas of Charles Street Grosvenor Square in the same County, Upholder swore that they knew and were well acquainted with Charles Kandler 1807 and with his handwriting which they confirmed as his.

On 27 June 1807 the PCC granted the Administration of the Estate of Charles Kandler formerly of Jermym Street afterwards of Air Street Piccadilly, but late of Vine Street Piccadilly, widower, deceased, to Elizabeth Kandler ,Spinster, the natural and lawful sister and only next of kin.
The PCC noted that no Executor or residuary Legatee had emerged.

Miss Kandler did not live very longer after her inheritance .
Her will was proved at PCC on 17th March 1814 . TNA/ PROB 11/1553/202

From the fact that Goldsmiths’ Hall have no record of a change of address after his registration as a largeworker in 1778 at 100 Jermyn Street, and Heal giving his occupation there as 1778 to 1793, I think we can conclude that Charles Kandler probably retired , possibly in 1797, and moved first to Air Street , then to Vine Street. His wife had obviously died after 1797 leaving him a widower.

The intriguing use of Latin for the will is very unusual for this period . Perhaps he was a recent immigrant to England and was unfamiliar with English.

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Re: Charles Kandler II, 18th century
by agphile » Sun May 19, 2013 10:23 am

Some research on the Kandlers was published in the Silver Society Journal number 8. My copies don't go back that far, but I mention it in case anybody else has a copy or wishes to order one from the Society if it is still available.

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By courtesy of Peter Cameron's new website we have access to a copy of the Silver Studies article at http://www.petercameronantiquesilver.co ... andler.pdf

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With acknowledgements this is a brief summary of the additional facts relating to Charles Kandler II which are contained in Peter Cameron’s account.
He was born in 1737 the son of Charles Frederick and Mary Kandler .
He worked for his father in Jermyn Street until the latter’s death on 15th October 1778.
He entered a mark at Goldsmiths’ Hall on 12th November 1778 as a plate worker from 100 Jermyn Street.
He married Martha Pratt at St Clement Danes,Westminster in July 1779.

A separate summary has been prepared on the Forum regarding Charles Kandler I and Charles Frederick Kandler.

Andrews New London Directory 1789-90 records a Charles Kandler as a goldsmith and jeweller at 99 Jermyn Street, St James, London which probably relates to him.