Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

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ldoc
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Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

Postby ldoc » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:43 pm

Thanks for any help in identifying the master silver maker's mark on this eye bath. I have been advised that le vieillard (the old man) was used from 1818 to 1839. However, the markings within the lozenge have not been identified. It looks to me like 3 chicks over and R and another letter but none of my searches have come up with a maker.

Any input much appreciated.

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Re: Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

Postby ldoc » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:48 pm

This time with the pictures - apologies for being a slow learner!

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Re: Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

Postby JayT » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:22 am

Congratulations on your find.

The vieillard mark, or head of Michelangelo facing right in an octagonal reserve, is the silver standard mark used in Paris for 950 standard silver from 1819-1838. See:

http://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_marks.html

You should also have a guarantee mark somewhere on the object.

As for the maker’s mark, are you sure there is a second letter after R? If not, then I believe this to be the mark of Louis-Etienne-Auguste Royer working in Paris at 19 rue Geoffroy-L’Angevin. His mark was the initial R with a symbol of 3 female blackbirds in a triangle (trois merlettes en triangle). Royer was a jeweller who registered his mark in 1805. No end date is given.

See Arminjon, v. 1, no. 03123, p. 307.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

Postby JayT » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:11 pm

Talking to myself here. While casting another admiring glance at your eyebath, I do see the guarantee mark in your first picture on the lower rim: a Gorgon head in an oval reserve for medium objects. All three marks as they shoud be.

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Re: Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

Postby JayT » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:35 pm

Since the OP has not returned, I’m continuing my monologue on this Neoclassical style eye bath. In looking again at the maker’s mark, I don’t believe the initial is an R, as the OP stated, and I do see a hint of a second initial. The lower part of the lozenge was cut off inadvertently when the object was stamped. Fortunately, the symbol of 3 winged creatures is clear.

So back to the books to look for the symbol. There are 3 possible candidates for Paris makers working 1819-1838:
-Royer as originally suggested, symbol 3 female blackbirds facing right in a triangular formation;
-François Duché, a jeweller, initials FD, symbol 3 birds facing right in a triangular formation above and an upside-down anchor below (trois oiseaux et une ancre renversée);
-Pierre-Noël Blaquière, initials PNB, symbol 3 swallows facing right in a triangular formation (trois hirondelles). Blaquière was a jeweller, specializing in fittings for travel cases (nécessaires), of which an eye bath could be one element. His mark had a border around the lozenge, with a pellet at each point.

From what can be seen of the mark, I believe Blaquière is the maker of this object. He registered in 1803-1804; no end date is given, but he was mentioned in the Almanach Azur until 1822. Therefore if he is the maker, the eye bath can be dated quite precisely to between 1819-1822. He worked at 174 rue St-Honoré, then after 1820 at the magnificent townhouse mansion, the Hôtel d’Aligre http://www.paris-promeneurs.com/Patrimo ... u-hotel-de

See Arminjon, v. 1, no. 03047, p. 300.

A very famous maker who also produced nécessaires and other objects worked at 283 rue St-Honoré, just two blocks away from Blaquière’s first address. This of course was Martin-Guillaume Biennais, Napoleon I’s silversmith.

This object is carefully executed, well marked, not frequently found on the market: nice!

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Re: Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

Postby blakstone » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:38 pm

I agree emphatically that the mark is Blaquière's. I spot-checked available Paris commercial almanacs, and he is listed in 1825 at 123 rue St. Honoré, and in 1833 at 11 rue Bailleul; he is not listed in 1837 or 1838. (I could not find directories for 1834-1836). He is almost certainly the Pierre-Noël Blaquière who died in Paris, 12th arrondissement, on 5 Jul 1849.

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Re: Lozenge master silver mark on eye bath

Postby JayT » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:15 pm

Hello blakstone
Nice finally to have a dialogue about this wonderful object. So Blaquière it is for the maker. Your additional research on his places of business is interesting.

Hope the OP eventually returns to find all this info!


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