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HE&Co on Birmingham made candlesticks

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:46 pm
by Qrt.S
HI and greetings from the Russian site.

I got this picture with two questions from friend of mine. The marks are punched on two candlesticks. All marks are clear except for the maker HE&Co's name and the strange "CAPITAL" mark. Any ideas?
Thank you in advance
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Re: HE&Co on Birmingham made candlesticks

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:08 pm
by silvermakersmarks
HE&Co is Hawksworth, Eyre & Co, a Sheffield company and "Capital" is a known trade mark of theirs.

Phil

Re: HE&Co on Birmingham made candlesticks

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:57 am
by Qrt.S
OK, thank you, but mind my asking, you write "a Sheffield company". The town mark is, however, Birmingham. Does the company have a subsidiary in Birmingham?

Re: HE&Co on Birmingham made candlesticks

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:42 am
by silvermakersmarks
Many of the larger companies registered marks at several assay offices either because they had workshops in other places or because they used other silversmithing companies to produce items on their behalf. I will just remind our readers that the correct term for the maker's mark is "sponsor's mark"; this implies that the mark is that of the person or company who takes responsibility for the piece of silver and is not necessarily the maker.

Other reasons for marks registered with more than one assay office may be that the second assay office is more efficient or has lower charges - it is particularly noticeable that many Birmingham silversmiths used the Chester Assay Office as well as Birmingham.

Phil

Re: HE&Co on Birmingham made candlesticks

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:11 am
by Qrt.S
OK, thanks...but I still prefer to use the old expression "Maker's Mark" because "Sponsor's Mark" is correct but a modern "invention" and here we are mostly discussing antique silver not contemporary silver. Anyway, much appreciated, thanks again .

Have a nice day
Qrt.S

Re: HE&Co on Birmingham made candlesticks

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:33 am
by dognose
silvermakersmarks wrote: Other reasons for marks registered with more than one assay office may be that the second assay office is more efficient or has lower charges - it is particularly noticeable that many Birmingham silversmiths used the Chester Assay Office as well as Birmingham.

Phil
Another reason, perhaps, may be found here: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 38&t=50418

Trev.