ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

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ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:50 am

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:51 am

ITS A CROWN NEXT TO THE F BUT NOTHING LIKE THE SHEFFIELD CROWN

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby AG2012 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:58 pm

Hi,
Pseudo marks.Possibly Chinese export silver.
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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby dognose » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:06 pm

Hi,

No, the marks are those of the Sheffield Assay Office for 1829. The maker is Sansom & Harwood.

Can you post an image of the whole item?

See item #8 of the 'Dont's' here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10

Trev.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:09 pm

yes i will ,the thing that put me off was the crown ,its very unusual shape. and thankyou

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:10 pm

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby dognose » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:13 pm

That's brilliant. Thank you.

Trev.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:19 pm

well thank you for your help . all i need now is some glass or maybe egg cups

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby silvermakersmarks » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:20 pm

Sheffield Assay Office used from 1780 until 1853 a special form of their hallmark for items which required a smaller hallmark in which the crown and date letter were combined into a single punch. As Trev has said this is the version created for 1829.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:27 pm

thanks phil ,i am learning

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby Traintime » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:53 pm

For search ref.: Cruet Stand.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby dognose » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:55 pm

Sansom & Harwood did not register their mark with the Sheffield Assay Office until 1833, but as there is no 'S & H' mark recorded at that office prior to that date, I can only assume that there was an earlier unrecorded entry for that firm.

Trev.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:55 am

thank you all for the help ..i think it a bit big for a cruet stand as the container holes are quite wide ,they would be more suited to a normal drinking glass size , but i could be wrong

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby silvermakersmarks » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:46 am

Cruet stand is the correct designation. It's not intended for condiment dispensers of the size we use nowadays but for the larger bottles for oil, vinegar, spice casters, etc which were essential for fine living 200 years ago.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:11 am

thanks silvermakersmarks that makes perfect sense

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby spobby » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:17 am

With the cartouche at the front, this would be a stand for a Warwick Cruet set, generally containing sugar casters & two oil bottles.
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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby spobby » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:22 am

Actually as Phil stated, spice & sugar casters - the two empty rings shown are for the tops of the oil bottles when in use.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS ME PUZZLED ?

Postby gerkin » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:42 am

would the larger caster be sugar ,the one in front ? and the other two ,mace ?


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