Fake or provincial British hallmarks?

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Fake or provincial British hallmarks?

Postby oel » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:05 am

Hi,

Are we looking at fake British marks or perhaps provincial ?
The maker's mark PS perhaps to imitate the mark of Paul Storr?


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Re: Fake or provincial British hallmarks?

Postby dognose » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:51 am

Hi Oel,

Opinions regarding possible counterfeit marking taken from images alone are always a minefield, so I will just point out the parts that to me would set the alarm bells ringing.

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1, 2, - The spacing of the letters within the cartouche does not appear to be uniform.

3, - This cartouche shape is to be found on small objects only.

4, - What is this 'misting' around the marks? Have they been recently struck and then buffed up?

5, - Where is the Leopard's Head mark?

6, - A small point, and perhaps not valid, I would expect the Storr workshops to have been a litte more careful with the application of their mark.

One could also bring into question the shape of the 'PS' cartouche with its somewhat flattened sides.

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Re: Fake or provincial British hallmarks?

Postby techsol » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:30 am

Just a thought, if the date letter purports to be 1823, then surely the duty mark should be a George IV head, to me it looks on the photo to be a George III head.

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Re: Fake or provincial British hallmarks?

Postby oel » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:39 pm

Thank you all very much. I have drawn my conclusion.


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Re: Fake or provincial British hallmarks?

Postby Granmaa » Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:10 pm

What is the object, oel?

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Re: Fake or provincial British hallmarks?

Postby oel » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:54 am

Hi Miles,

Thanks, herewith the whole item. I believe the Marks to be dubious.

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The marks;
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And a genuine maker’s mark of Paul Storr;
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