Cant identify these marks

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Cant identify these marks

Postby a134743 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:52 pm

I was told by the previous owner that this cream and sugar set were sterling however i have been unable to identify the marks. There appears to be a makers mark beginning with an R, then 3 symbols (2 of which appear to be heads, followed by an S which should identify the year.

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby dognose » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:31 am

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby a134743 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:09 am

I have attempted to load a pic using this method - it is for a cream and sugar set - believed to be from 1800s?


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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby AG2012 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:21 am

Hi,
Possibly Richard Sawyer, Dublin 1814.
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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby dognose » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:25 am

Hi,

Nice item! Richard Sawyer of Dublin, assayed in 1814.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/dlDublin5.html#M

Although Richard Sawyer died in 1812, it appears his business was carried on for several years following that event.

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby a134743 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:02 pm

Awesome thank you for your help - i assume it is a sterling item? I have the matching creamer as well for it.

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby dognose » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:10 pm

Yes, Sterling standard.

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby a134743 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:01 pm

This is a pic of the matching creamer - date mark is a "T"

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby dognose » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:12 pm

Can you capture an image of the marks on that one?

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby a134743 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:39 pm

Marks on the creamer - the insignia at the start (RS) is so worn it doesn't show up in the pics.

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby a134743 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:41 pm

What are the 3 symbols representing - i only know the traditional symbol for sterling being the lion or anchor

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby silvermakersmarks » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:19 am

The marks on the sucrier are, from left to right:
- maker's mark
- duty mark (the sovereign's head showing that the appropriate tax had been paid)
- crowned harp (fineness mark applied to silver and gold in Ireland)
- Hibernia
- date letter

The Hibernia (Roman name for Ireland) mark was introduced in 1730 to indicate that duty had been paid. In 1807, when the duty mark became the sovereign's head, the Assay Office adopted Hibernia as the town mark for Dublin.

Note that the lion passant is the fineness standard mark for England only.

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Re: Cant identify these marks

Postby a134743 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:54 am

Thanks again, for all your help in identifying these. Greatly appreciated


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