Identifying STERLING marks

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:43 am

This mark was used by George Whelpley:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:44 am

George Whelpley used this mark:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby bstaunto » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:17 am

Argentum2 wrote:Here is a punch used by John Nicholson and Nicholas Nicholson:


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Here is a similar (if not the same, used on a teaspoon marked by Gibson.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:04 pm

Yes, the mark does look the same.

The Nicholsons were in business between c. 1756 and c. 1830 with the partnership of John and Nicholas Nicholson in existence between 1797 and 1804.

Joseph Gibson was in business 1784 to about 1820.

However, the common use of this punch by the Nicholsons and Gibson may be connected to the fact that Joseph Gibson married a daughter of John Nicholson on 3 June 1788 and he may have been apprenticed to the same John Nicholson.

If so, it may be another example of the intermarriage of Cork silversmiths and a hint as to their business practices.

Very many thanks for pointing out this example.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:49 pm

This example used by John Nicholson (script IN)


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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:53 pm

Another used by John Nicholson (script IN)

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:42 pm

Another mark used by John Nicholson (II possibly) in c. 1790 with a phonetic spelling of "Sterling"

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby robert12 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:40 am

This Sterling mark for John Warner Cork.
On Hanoverian fork circa 1785
Looks like a shared punch with William Teulon from the earlier listing
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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:10 am

Indeed it does.

Is there any professional or family relationship between the two makers?

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:16 am

I came across this mark recently and it was ascribed to George Hodder. However, I had not seen it before and it looks a little out of character for Cork STERLING marks. Would anyone have an example from a piece we know to have been made by George Hodder?

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:22 am

Argentum2 wrote:An example used by George Hodder:

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Yes, we already have an example. Others, of course, would be very welcome.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby scorpio » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:19 pm

I've never come across a Cork STERLING mark like that before either.

I have this George Hodder maker's and STERLING marks from a caster I own but the STERLING mark is not very clear on it.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:57 pm

Thanks for that, Scorpio.

The maker's mark is very clear and not at all like the mark accompanying the STERLING mark.

I am told the item the mark is on is a flat covered dish with a crest and a motto. The motto is Ne vante ne foiblesse. As far as I can see this belogs to a Norman family - Goddes de Varennes.

Could anyone comment on the "H H" makers mark?

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:21 pm

Another punch used by John Nicholson c. 1785 with another type of maker's mark


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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:52 pm

A STERLING punch used by Samuel Green c. 1810 with his mark:


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John Warner STERLg Mark

Postby robert12 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:31 pm

I have just mastered how to load pics so have updated my earlier posting with just a link.
John Warner of Cork and virtually the same mark as the listed William Teulon example.
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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby scorpio » Wed May 20, 2015 10:16 am

Carden Terry - Cork
Date: Circa 1775-80
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Carden Terry & Jane Williams - Cork
Date: Circa 1806-7
Two different STERLING punches used, both likely dating to around the same period just after the partnership commenced in 1806. Silver items are extant with Dublin marks for 1807 and after but it's not clear if there was a definite date beyond which all silver was sent to Dublin to be assayed or whether there was an overlap between STERLING marked and Dublin marked items.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby scorpio » Wed May 20, 2015 10:25 am

George Hodder - Cork
Date: Circa 1740
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George Hodder - Cork
Date: Circa 1750
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George Hodder - Cork
Date: Circa 1750
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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby scorpio » Wed May 20, 2015 10:40 am

William Reynolds - Cork
Circa 1750
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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby scorpio » Wed May 20, 2015 10:50 am

Michael McDermott - Cork
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Michael McDermott - Cork
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Michael McDermott - Cork
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