Identifying STERLING marks

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Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:21 am

Would anyone have any ideas about associating this STERLING mark with a maker's mark?

Is there a list of STERLING marks that can be attributed to specific makers?


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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:53 am

For instance:

Carden Terry used these STERLING punches

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Patrick Ryan used this one:

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John Nicholson used this one:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:52 am

Or this example used by John Warner:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby dognose » Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:26 am

Hi Argentum,

Such a list would be an interesting project, I'm not aware of such a resource existing. I suppose one spanner in the works may be a possible shared use of a punch, especially amongst the less prolific smiths.

It would also be great to know how many die-cutters were working in the provinces that were capable of producing such punches.

Trev.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:59 am

Even with shared use of punches, a list of punches positively associated makers would narrow the gap somewhat, as would be a list of those capable of making such punches.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:09 am

Here is a punch used by John Nicholson and Nicholas Nicholson:


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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:17 am

John Hiliary's STERLING punch


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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:21 am

A STERLING punch used by the Carden Terry & Jane Williams commercial partnership:


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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:27 am

An example used by George Hodder:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:32 am

John Tolken's punch:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:44 am

Michael McDermott:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:47 am

Joseph Gibson:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:51 am

William Clarke

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:11 pm

An example used by Richard Stevens:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:17 pm

An interesting punch used by William Teulon:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby scorpio » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:31 am

Argentum2 wrote:Would anyone have any ideas about associating this STERLING mark with a maker's mark?

Is there a list of STERLING marks that can be attributed to specific makers?

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Can you please post photos of the item of silver this mark is on. Now I may be mistaken but I have a vague recollection of seeing this particular STERLING mark online recently and the item had the crest of an eagle's head looking left. I recall thinking at the time that maybe the crest was a bald eagle and the silver American rather than Irish. Is this the same item? Perhaps tracing the crest would help identify the origin of this silver item.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:55 pm

I saw that item and the crest looked that of Westropp of Carrigaline, Co. Cork, I think.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:58 pm

The American identification crossed my own mind but ultimately I excluded it on the basis of other examples of the Westropp crest and on the decline of heraldic crests on American silver after the misadventure of 1776.

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:09 pm

This version is of Westropp of Attyfin park in Limerick:

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Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Postby Argentum2 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:26 pm

An example used by John Warner

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