Pseudo or not?

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Pseudo or not?

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Silver teapot with marks on base. 6 petal flower or berries, Roman numerals IV, letter Z, possibly rampant lion with crown. Modern Dutch silver purity mark Z1 ( small mark below IV).

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Hi could you please show us an image of the complete teapot

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Hi,
Your image of marks twice, once rotated.
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After careful consideration, looking at the weak unclear town mark with dots, the town mark of Haarlem springs to mind, being a sword flanked by two stars under a cross and crown. The (unclear)provincial standard mark for Holland, being a lion rampant under a crown and the year letter Z for Haarlem 1734. The maker's mark ɪV could be for Jan Verdoes, registered in Haarlem 1734-1768 a known maker of teapots, tea caddies and brandy bowls. Right corner image Tremolirstich (zig-zag line) made by assayer to determine silver standard (934/1000)
Haarlem town mark and province standard mark 1734-1735
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The marks of Jan Verdoes. NB his mark can also be encountered as a falsification.
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Haarlem year letter Z for 1734 1st & 2nd standard with town mark uncrowned
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The marks on a silver tea caddy attributed to Jan Verdoes;
It appears the same worn/damaged town mark punch used.
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Also see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 028#p80360
Please judge for your self Fake or Fortune?


Peter.

Source; Haarlemse zilversmeden en hun merken (Dutch Edition).
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Re: Pseudo or not?

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oel wrote:Hi,

The marks on a silver tea caddy attributed to Jan Verdoes;
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Also see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 028#p80360
Please judge for your self Fake or Fortune?


Peter.
Thank you peter. The image of the tea caddy you provided has identical marks with mine. I found it strange that the marks looked worn even though they wouldn't get polished or touched. I guess they were struck badly? what do you think?

Thank you for your expert help.
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"It appears the same worn/damaged town mark punch used"

Ah Sorry, You already answered my question.
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An image of the complete teapot could be helpful.

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oel wrote:An image of the complete teapot could be helpful.

Peter
Alright here you go. wood handle, recessed shells, tassel and fabric engravings.

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To me the teapot looks authentic. Herewith a silver bachelor's teapot by Jan Verdoes Haarlem 1742, height 11,8 cm.
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IVD conjoined Jan Verdoes, Haarlem 1742

The style and date of your teapot are contemporary
http://data.collectienederland.nl/searc ... als-museum


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marvelous, thank you oel.
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