Help with Marker and City marks on 17th century brandy bowl

PHOTOS REQUIRED - marks + item
Post Reply
dsa
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:09 pm

Help with Marker and City marks on 17th century brandy bowl

Post by dsa »

Hi,
At the end of my capacity for deciphering these marks. Marks are on a Brandy bowl. Side bears 1670s date.
So I'm guessing that this is 17th (and guessing that it is Dutch not German).
Any help would be appreciated!


Image
Image
oel
co-admin
Posts: 4788
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:16 pm
Location: Rotterdam
Contact:

Re: Help with Marker and City marks on 17th century brandy bowl

Post by oel »

Hi DSA, welcome to the forum.
Image
In appearance, Dutch 17th century silver brandy bowl; lobed oval and on spreading foot, with two scroll handles with dragon heads or sea horses.
My first thought made in Groningen however the year letter is not correct for Groningen.
For more information about Dutch guild marks, including Groningen see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028


Image
The maker's mark could by HA conjoined and the 1st (double)mark could be an E(?) or crown(?) with a X and it could be for Emden (Embda, Emda, Embden) in Germany
http://silberpunze.freehost.ag/index.php?id=30

Emden is a town and seaport in Lower Saxony in the northwest of Germany, on the river Ems. It is the main town of the region of East Frisia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emden
In the year 1595 Emden Revolution;
Emden became a "satellite" of the Netherlands and de facto a free imperial city. The city was proud of this status, and henceforth signed all its official publications with S.P.Q.E. ("Senate and People of Emden"), after the Roman model. The city and the Reformed southwestern part of East Frisia built close ties with the Calvinist church in the Netherlands. During the 17th century, Dutch was the language of choice of the leading citizens of Emden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emden_Revolution

I will check it out and let you know.




Best,

Oel.
oel
co-admin
Posts: 4788
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:16 pm
Location: Rotterdam
Contact:

Re: Help with Marker and City marks on 17th century brandy bowl

Post by oel »

Hi DSA,

We have all answers for you including the name of the possible maker but we like a clear enhanced image of all the marks, made with a good digital camera, normal daylight no flash. Could you be so kind to provide us with those images. Thanks.


Oel.
oel
co-admin
Posts: 4788
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:16 pm
Location: Rotterdam
Contact:

Re: Help with Marker and City marks on 17th century brandy bowl

Post by oel »

Brandy bowl Emden 17th century
Maker’s mark HA conjoined for Hans Arntzen (Aerssen,Aertzen) born 1646 and master 1669 – 1705 ( or later?) (Scheffler Nr.121)
Year letter Emden, X for 1673



Oel.
Gratitude: Theoderich & Ringo und Horst Arians
Post Reply

Return to “Dutch Silver”