British Sterling Jug with Family Crest

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STEVE LAPIN
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British Sterling Jug with Family Crest

Postby STEVE LAPIN » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:44 pm

I have a British Sterling jug with a family crest, 5" tall and 5" at its widest point. So far I have discovered that the motto "Ferro Non Gladio" may link to the surname Gist (also spelled Gist). The left side of the crest corresponds with this, a chevron with three swan's heads.

I have not been able to identify the maker's marks (S.B is all that remains) nor the date letter, as the silver on the base of the jug has wear and it is no longer clear. I have examined the date letter and duty mark with a loupe. No luck with the duty mark, but the date letter might be an L. Any assistance with maker's mark and/or the crest would be greatly appreciated.

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Postby georgiansilver » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:59 am

http://www.genealogicaljourneys.com/surinfog.htm

Find details of the crest here. Best wishes, Mike.
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Postby georgiansilver » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:00 am

PS... look under GIST
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Postby Granmaa » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:43 pm

I don't know the maker, but the date could be 1861 or 1866.
The motto translates as: With iron not with the sword.

Miles
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Postby dognose » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:45 pm

SB or SS maybe?

Trev.
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chrisclifford
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Re: British Sterling Jug with Family Crest

Postby chrisclifford » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:08 pm

Thanks Steve for posting the entry about this interesting jug.

I have just come across the piece on a separate search tracking down items belonging to a specific family. I have a particular historical interest in the early antecedents of the British iron industry and the families that were involved in iron manufacture.

I can't see all the details as well as I would like. It's a while since you posted this entry but if you are still looking at this post, I think the jug may relate to the family of one of the most important iron masters in Britain - Sir John Josiah Guest Bt. Thinking about the date the armorial may possibly relate to his son the 2nd Baronet and also peer in his own right.

I may have some more information if it is of interest.

Hoping you might pick this up.

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Re: British Sterling Jug with Family Crest

Postby AG2012 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:52 am

Hi,
S.B is all that remains

Scratched and removed on purpose ? Looks like that.
The wear of the marks is not uniform (lion passant and leopard`s head are almost intact).
The jug does not look mid-Victorian.
Just my observation.
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Re: British Sterling Jug with Family Crest

Postby chrisclifford » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:21 am

Just following up on my earlier post.

I can now add some possible further detail.

The escutcheon of the armorial I believe contains impaled arms of Ivor Guest 1st Baron Wimborne and those of the father of his wife. His wife was the daughter of the Duke of Marlborough so although not in fine detail these are the Spencer-Churchill arms.

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Best wishes
Chris


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