Help with maker mark on cigarette case

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NancyCaroline
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Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby NancyCaroline » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:21 pm

Hi,
Hoping for some help identifying maker on this cigarette case. My research shows it to be Russian sterling, Moscow circa 1890, assayer Anatoliì Apollonovich Artsibashev. Hopefully this is correct:)
I've not been able to identify the maker, mark is worn but perhaps someone will recognize it. Thanks for looking!
Nancy
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Qrt.S
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Re: Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby Qrt.S » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:28 am

The maker's mark is so worn that I don't dare to even guess. There are too many alternatives. However, I'd like to inform you that 84 zolotniki is not sterling (925/1000) but 875/1000. Nice object anyway.

Goldstein
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Re: Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby Goldstein » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:47 am

Hi NancyCaroline -

the maker is Ivanov, Adrian T. - known for his tasteful silverwares.
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Regards
Goldstein

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Re: Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby NancyCaroline » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:48 am

Thanks so much! I appreciate your help!!
Best, Nancy

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Re: Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby AG2012 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:05 am

Qrt.S
The maker's mark is so worn that I don't dare to even guess

Agree.
Could be АИ but would not be professional to bet on it.
Regards

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Re: Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby Goldstein » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:15 pm

Hi AG2012 -

I must not bet on it - I know - because I not only read some books and think I know all. I have from nearly all major makers several comparison specimens! That makes all a lot easier and plausible.
If you think I gave the wrong answer - show me who it is....

Qrt.S wrote:There are too many alternatives.


If you do not know what to write - do not write!

I think this was my last post.

All the best
Goldstein

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Re: Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby NancyCaroline » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:36 am

Hi, Understood. I knew the mark was worn & that someone recognizing it was a long shot. All input is greatly appreciated & extremely helpful! Many thanks. Nancy

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Re: Help with maker mark on cigarette case

Postby Qrt.S » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:22 am

The problem is that the maker's mark is so worn that you cannot with 100% certainty see what are the letters. The alternatives could be АИ, АН, ДИ, ДН and ??? Of course assumptions can be made, but...? Having that in mind, it is irresponsible naming one particular without a doubt.

Having "nearly all major maker's specimens"...!? There are so many to name unknown masters in Russia, major or not, so claiming that is....


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