Snuff / chewing tobacco container

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Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Goldstein » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:42 pm

Hi -

just got this Snuff / chewing tobacco container (waiting for the mail - photos from the seller - uncleaned!)
Maker unlegible, townmark for me not clear.
So my question: can someone identify the townmark?
Any idea wellcome!

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Qrt.S » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:59 pm

Try Novocherkassk before 1880.

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Qrt.S » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:09 pm

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Goldstein » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:12 pm

Hi -

that was my suspicion too - but will check when the shoe arrives.

Many thanks!

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Goldstein » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:58 am

Hi -

For the cleaning fetishist:

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby juantotree » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:11 am

Hi

Would the pierced/filigree work not preclude this from containing snuff or tobacco, due to spillage and drying out?

Could it be for holding pot pourri, what are the measurements?

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Goldstein » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:11 am

Hi juantotree -

there was a long tradition of ashtrays and snuff/chewing tobacco in shoeform in Russia. Measurements between 6cm and 8 cm.

Snuff

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Ashtrays

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and so on....

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby SteveDWollongong » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:00 pm

Juantotree is correct. This particular shoe could not have been designed for snuff or tobacco due to the filagree sides. The filagree makes it useless in both cases.

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Goldstein » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:01 pm

Hi SteveDWollongong -

In my collection, these shoes with lids run as snuff / chewing tobacco containers. That fillgree containers are not suitable for snuff is even noticeable to laymen! But what laymen also usually do not know - Snuff is offered in different versions.
For your better understanding I enclose some photos. Maybe you inform yourself how chewing tobacco is consumated...

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Aguest » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:03 am

I found one of these filigree shoes which had no lid and it had a solid metal part where it seemed as if a cigarette holder would be placed, or possibly a cigarette, it had no hallmarks and I assumed it was from the Ottoman Empire ::: I put this silver cigarette holder on it and it seemed to fit quite well :: Are there Russian examples of these cigarette holders? :: Most of these with the amber or bakelite tip seem to be attributed to the Ottoman Empire :

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This is the cigarette holder, most likely Ottoman Empire, it did fit quite well in that filigree shoe :::::

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Re: Snuff / chewing tobacco container

Postby Goldstein » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:20 am

Hi Aguest -

you should have started a new topic...

The Russian cigarette holders are all very small and characteristic. Wood, silver, niello, enamel, silver amber/ivory etc.
Here some examples:

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And so on...

To prevent smart comments: what looks like little pipes are also cigarette holders!

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Goldstein


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