Help With Assayer and Maker Please

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Help With Assayer and Maker Please

Postby dognose » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:58 am

Hi,

A friend has sent me some images of a St. Petersburg spoon requesting information on the assayer and maker:

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I can see the assayer is Ivan Yevstigneyev, but I am unsure of the maker.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Trev.

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Re: Help With Assayer and Maker Please

Postby Goldstein » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:52 am

Hi Trev -

in my opinion Kilpelainen, Mathias

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Re: Help With Assayer and Maker Please

Postby dognose » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:07 am

Excellent Goldstein, many thanks. I'll pass the information along.

Trev.

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Re: Help With Assayer and Maker Please

Postby AG2012 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:35 am

Hi,
Confirming Goldstein`s attribution:
Matias Henrich Kilpelein or Kilpeleinen (the latter sounds more Finnish)

Матиас Килпелеин

From Skurlov:

КИЛЬПЕЛЕЙНЕН (КИЛЬПЕЛЕЙН) Матиас Генрих, (р. 1831 г. в Финляндии), в 1850 г. перехал в СПб, в 1854 г. подмастерье, с 1865 г. СДМ, известен до 1898 г. Постникова—Лосева: клейма №№ 1342, 1793.

(Born 1831 in Finland, arrived in SP in 1850. Under master 1854, master 1865, mentioned until 1898.)

PL book No.1342 initials MK no serif.
PL No.1793 (under Latin initials) M dot K with serif (shown by Goldstein).

His silver is not uncommon and MK is always attributed to him.No more SPB masters with MK initials.
No serif examples (PL 1342).
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Re: Help With Assayer and Maker Please

Postby dognose » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:46 am

Hi AG2012,

Many thanks for the confirmation, it's appreciated.

Trev.

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Re: Help With Assayer and Maker Please

Postby Qrt.S » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:51 am

I share the same opinion, it is Klipeläinen, but

AG2012 wrote:(the latter sounds more Finnish)

:-))))
The correct spelling is Matias (Mathias) Henrik Kilpeläinen. At that time it was very common to "Swedify" forenames. That means that Kilpeläinen's original Finnish forenames were most likely Matti Heikki. I'm not with my books right now and unable to verify my anticipation. However, we have another very well known master whose name is often seen and spelled Anders Nevalainen. In fact his baptized forename is Antti. Finnish names are sometimes difficult...

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Re: Help With Assayer and Maker Please

Postby dognose » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:17 pm

Hi Qrt.S,

Many thanks for the further information. I'll pass it on.

Trev.


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