Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

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sophanome1
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Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby sophanome1 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:43 pm

I've spent hours trying to figure out what this item it. It has russian silver hallmarks and a stag handle. The curved, chisel edge blade measures 2-7/8" long. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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AG2012
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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby AG2012 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:57 pm

Hi,
I think this is home made fantasy knife.
Kokoshnik mark (enlarged here) is completely wrong and``88`` fineness .916 is absurd.
Let`s wait for more responses.
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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby amena » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:23 am

Excuse me if I ask for clarification, Russian silver is not really my field, but on this site
http://www.silvercollection.eu/russians ... lmark.html
there are some examples of Russian silver with fineness 88.
Are they fake?
The object could be a cigar cutter?
Thanks for the attention
Amena

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby AG2012 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:23 am

There was 88 zolotniki fineness, mostly used by prominent silversmiths for the highest quality objects.
Being softer alloy than 84 I see no logic in using it for cutting edge of any kind.
Cannot figure out how the knife works and its purpose, but again, I find this kokoshnik mark wrong in many aspects.

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby Qrt.S » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:38 am

I don't either know what it is used for, but if it is supposed to be a knife, it is useless. The "silver" is too soft. Moreover, I also share AG 2012's opinion, the marks are pure fantasy even if there are some similarities. They have, anyway, nothing to do with Russia

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby Goldstein » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:34 am

Hi -

I think it was the first Russian boomerang. The owner wanted to throw it away - but it came always back....

another masterpiece - maybe from the same workshop:

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Long thought lost - recently reappeared ......

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Goldstein

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby sophanome1 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm

Thanks for the replies. As far as 88 silver being useless for a cutting edge, there are sterling bladed folding fruit knives. Maybe this could this be some type of specialized fruit knife?

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby dognose » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:25 pm

Hi sophanome1,

Welcome to the Forum.

Does the handle fold, or is it in a fixed position?

Trev.

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby AG2012 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:47 pm

Hello again,
Fineness ``88`` is not the main issue here.Its advantage was better casting properties (relief details) and was mostly used for exquisite objects.
Unfortunately,whatever the purpose of this strange object (with serrated edges), marks have nothing to do with Imperial Russian marks.
Best wishes

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby sophanome1 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:42 pm

No it does not fold. This is the other side.

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Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Postby Goldstein » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:24 am

Hi -

I bet it was sold as "cirgumsision tool"......

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Goldstein


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