Russian artist?
Re: Russian artist?
I bit strange marking but I would say that it is most likely from Transkaukasia (Tiflis) in Russia because the assayer seems to be Schmidetskij, Iosif Aleksandrovitch. He assayed there 1897-1908. This kokoshnik mark was used 1899-1908, so now you have it dated. However, I miss the maker's mark....
Re: Russian artist?
thank you for the effort :)
may have the manufacturer produces 1804-1832?
http://photo.qip.ru/users/777alex777/25 ... nImageLink
Unfortunately, the manufacturer can not read. see nr. 3679
and repaired in 1900
may have the manufacturer produces 1804-1832?
http://photo.qip.ru/users/777alex777/25 ... nImageLink
Unfortunately, the manufacturer can not read. see nr. 3679
and repaired in 1900
Re: Russian artist?
Yes, I saw that mark but there is a big discrepancy. Mark #3679's maker is unknown to name. His working period was 1804-1832. The assay mark on your object was used 1899-1908. The difference in years is too big, but...???
Re: Russian artist?
No, Schmidetskij is only the assayer, an authority/official who tests and guarantees the legal fineness. That is all. He has nothing to do with the manufacturing or repairing of any object.
The only explanation I can think of is that the object for reasons unknown would have been assayed much later....... I don't think some but again? The mark has some similarities with #3679 but, but...?
You are not giving any measures but it looks like bottle of some kind.
There are many "buts" here :-)))
The only explanation I can think of is that the object for reasons unknown would have been assayed much later....... I don't think some but again? The mark has some similarities with #3679 but, but...?
You are not giving any measures but it looks like bottle of some kind.
There are many "buts" here :-)))
Re: Russian artist?
height 15 cm
wide 10cm
ca. 250gr
wide 10cm
ca. 250gr
Re: Russian artist?
Hi.Ronny wrote:thank you for the effort :)
may have the manufacturer produces 1804-1832?
I think, it is possible. The small square punch is the punch for items which are put up for sale from a pawnshop (from 1899-1908). Items without hallmarks were tested in assay office before sale. It is a compulsory procedure. After test in assay office were punches the oval mark and the square (pawnshop) mark.
Re: Russian artist?
many thanks for the interesting explanation!
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Re: Russian artist?
Gentlemen,
Was reviewing this post, there appears to be an older mark that the kokoshnik mark is overlapping. Look below the 8 and the 4, are those two very shallow Cyrillic letters?
Warren
Was reviewing this post, there appears to be an older mark that the kokoshnik mark is overlapping. Look below the 8 and the 4, are those two very shallow Cyrillic letters?
Warren