Hi there - can anyone help identify the approximate date and maker/assay master of this Russian scoop. I believe it to be made in St. Petersburg. Also, any ideas on what it was used for. My initial thoughts was that it is a caddy spoon. However it has a hollow handle with a small blow hole! It is about 110mm long and the scoop is 40 mm wide. The stamped initials could be I.T. or J.T. ? Many thanks John
Strange Russian Scoop?
Re: Strange Russian Scoop?
We recon have seen this maker's mark here before. It is J.T. and it is assumed that it would be a Finn by the name of Johannes Tölkkeri. He was born in in Artjärvi in Finland 2.9. 1841 and came to St Petersburg in 1857. He became journeyman in 1861 and master around 1870. He working period is not absolutely clear but it was around 1870-1880. That fits well with the assay mark because it was used in St Petersburg before 1882.
What it is for? Well, why not a caddy spoon? What it is not, is a caviar spoon because the stem is too short for that.
What it is for? Well, why not a caddy spoon? What it is not, is a caviar spoon because the stem is too short for that.
Re: Strange Russian Scoop?
Hi -
some thoughts:
1) the often used phrase "caviar spoon" on Russian silver spoons of every design ist just pure nonsense. Caviar and silver does not taste very well - real caviar spoons are always made of bone, tortie, mother of pearl etc.
2) Tölkeri, Johannes semingly used several different punches - all the objects I know have different looking punches. But all his objects have his "personal", atypical charme. See photos:
3) yes, it is a caddy spoon
Regards
Zolotnik
some thoughts:
1) the often used phrase "caviar spoon" on Russian silver spoons of every design ist just pure nonsense. Caviar and silver does not taste very well - real caviar spoons are always made of bone, tortie, mother of pearl etc.
2) Tölkeri, Johannes semingly used several different punches - all the objects I know have different looking punches. But all his objects have his "personal", atypical charme. See photos:
3) yes, it is a caddy spoon
Regards
Zolotnik
Re: Strange Russian Scoop?
Sorry Zolotnik but a caviar spoon is not always but usually made of bone, tortie, mother of pearl etc. A silver spoon's bowl can also be gilded and that will not cause any taste problems.
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Thanks Qrt. I had no of a of a Finn in Russia. I guess Finland not that far from St Petersburg! We will accept that it is a caddy spoon unless someone has another idea. Thanks again. John
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Before Finland became independent in 1917 it was an autonomic part of Imperial Russia (1809-1917). It was called the Grand Duchy of Finland. Lots of Finns worked in St Petersburg during that period. It is known that 500-700 Finns worked there as goldsmith masters making 1/4 of the labor force in this profession. Many of them became very famous. Most of the masters in Fabergé's factory were Finns. At that time St Petersburg was a very international city. Its nick name was the Nordic Venice.
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Thank you Qrt and Zolotnik. Good that a small spoon can generate some debate and interesting information. John