Help with translation

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portlandantique
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Help with translation

Post by portlandantique »

Hello everyone,

As I can not speak Russian, I am having a hard time with translating my reference books to some of my pieces. Could someone please help me with this maker? It is a nice cigarette case and here are a few pictures for you (sorry, could not get good photos of the marks). It is 3" x 3 1/4" x 1/2". It is marked on both interior sides with this maker mark, Moscow mark, and silver content mark. The marks are all correct and the dates all match, I just need help with translation of the passage. Many thanks! ImageImageImageImage
Francais

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Post by Francais »

I guess I will answer this, although I have only had one year of Russian. If you go to Google Translate it allows you to type in the Cyrillic characters, and get a translation. I have to admit that the results are sometimes quite humourus, but all the same it is usually understandable.
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In brief:
PM: Miljukov, Peter Pavlovitch 1877-1912. Founded a factory 1877 to produce silverware. In 1897 the working staff was 18 workers and 15 youngsters (apprentices?) who made bowls sugar baskets, teaglassholders, bowls, salt, cellars etc.etc. A turn over of 8000 rubles. (beakers, tankards, teapots...located in different museums (museum names in capital letters)).

Hopefully you have interpreted the marks correctly...!
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Hi Portlandantique

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Hi there all,

Thanks so much for the assistance with the translation, it is much appreciated. Sorry about the images and lack of makers mark, I have finally been able to get a decent photo for the group. I was still unable to get a decent photo of the other side, but this is better than nothing. Thanks again!Image
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Yes it seems to be Peter (Pyotr) Milyukov. The assayer AA is Anatoly Apollonovitch Artsibaschev who assayed in Moscow 1888-98. The silver fineness is 84 zolotnik i.e. 875/1000, an ordinary Russian minimum fineness.
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