Dimitri Nikolaev
Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi,
I am wondering about this silversmith..
I understand his mark was ДРin a rectangular cartouche, is this correct?
Also, are you able to provide any information on his type of work, and his styles. Where he was situated and when he worked?
I have ordered books - but they have yet to arrive. I am hoping they will arrive before Christmas but it looks like they might not.
Any information is kindly appreciated.
Regards,
Piette
I am wondering about this silversmith..
I understand his mark was ДРin a rectangular cartouche, is this correct?
Also, are you able to provide any information on his type of work, and his styles. Where he was situated and when he worked?
I have ordered books - but they have yet to arrive. I am hoping they will arrive before Christmas but it looks like they might not.
Any information is kindly appreciated.
Regards,
Piette
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi piette -
Nikolajev Dmitrij Nikolajewitsch, owner of a silver fabrik in Moscow since 1897 - made mostly cigarette cases.
That is all I have.
Regards
Postnikov
Nikolajev Dmitrij Nikolajewitsch, owner of a silver fabrik in Moscow since 1897 - made mostly cigarette cases.
That is all I have.
Regards
Postnikov
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Thank you for this information Postnikov. Do you know if he worked in enamel and niello?Postnikov wrote:Hi piette -
Nikolajev Dmitrij Nikolajewitsch, owner of a silver fabrik in Moscow since 1897 - made mostly cigarette cases.
That is all I have.
Regards
Postnikov
Regards,
Piette
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi piette -
when I remember right I once had 2 women bracelets in enamel (small round buttonlike objects connected to another) from him, which I sold. I have no cigarette case of him in my collection.
Regards
Postnikov
when I remember right I once had 2 women bracelets in enamel (small round buttonlike objects connected to another) from him, which I sold. I have no cigarette case of him in my collection.
Regards
Postnikov
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
I don't have much more either. The only thing to add is that he also marked ДÐÐ and not only ДРand 8 workers in the factory
Sorry
Sorry
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Piette, you are neither showing a picture nor mentioning any years. I happen to look more closely to this initial ДРand found some prospects...
D.I. Nekrasov ~1898
D.P Nikitin 1893-1917
D. Nikolajev ~1897
and if we add dots there are 3 more...
D.I. Nekrasov ~1898
D.P Nikitin 1893-1917
D. Nikolajev ~1897
and if we add dots there are 3 more...
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi Qrt.S and Postnikov,
Thank you both for the information you have provided me with.
The original reason for my quesiton was because, I am wondering how to distinguish between the marks of Dimitri Nikolajev and D. P. Nikitin as I understand they both marked with ДÐ.
Am I right to gather from your information, Qrt.S, that Nikolajev only used the ДРpunch in the year 1897, and that Nikitin used it from 1893-1917?
I do have a piece in mind - it is definitely a fake - but the marks look good. It is marked with the 1908-1917 kokoshnik, and with ДРin a regtangular cartouche (sorry no pictures).
What I am wondering is, if this item was real, would it be most likely by Nikitin or Nikolajev? It is a fake enamelled cigarette case.
I was just wanting to learn the difference between the marks of Nikitin and Nikolajev.
Regards,
Piette
Thank you both for the information you have provided me with.
The original reason for my quesiton was because, I am wondering how to distinguish between the marks of Dimitri Nikolajev and D. P. Nikitin as I understand they both marked with ДÐ.
Am I right to gather from your information, Qrt.S, that Nikolajev only used the ДРpunch in the year 1897, and that Nikitin used it from 1893-1917?
I do have a piece in mind - it is definitely a fake - but the marks look good. It is marked with the 1908-1917 kokoshnik, and with ДРin a regtangular cartouche (sorry no pictures).
What I am wondering is, if this item was real, would it be most likely by Nikitin or Nikolajev? It is a fake enamelled cigarette case.
I was just wanting to learn the difference between the marks of Nikitin and Nikolajev.
Regards,
Piette
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi piette -
Nikitin made very nice enamel - here are 2 cigarette cases.
Regards
Postnikov
Nikitin made very nice enamel - here are 2 cigarette cases.
Regards
Postnikov
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi Postnikov,Postnikov wrote:Hi piette -
Nikitin made very nice enamel - here are 2 cigarette cases.
Regards
Postnikov
Thank you for showing me these.
The second case, with the hares and birds, is extremely beautiful.
Regards,
Piette
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi All,
Just an extra question in this topic:
Here is the extract from P-L about Nikolaev...
I do not speak Russian, but I can read the cyrillic letters (the language is the next step!)
With the help of a very good online translator I have worked it out to be this:
"Dmitry Nikolaev was the owner of the factory making silver products in Moscow in the 2nd floor. In the nineteenth century. In 1897 he had a factory with 8 employees and 10 apprentices in the amount of 10,000 rubles making silver cigarette cases, ГИМ; лжица Ñ Ñ€ÐºÐ·ÑŒÐ±Ð¾Ð¹, ÐГМ."
I cannot find a translation for the end part - and I just want to check that this translation is right. Is there any way that the translation to English could be clearer?
Regards,
Piette
Just an extra question in this topic:
Here is the extract from P-L about Nikolaev...
I do not speak Russian, but I can read the cyrillic letters (the language is the next step!)
With the help of a very good online translator I have worked it out to be this:
"Dmitry Nikolaev was the owner of the factory making silver products in Moscow in the 2nd floor. In the nineteenth century. In 1897 he had a factory with 8 employees and 10 apprentices in the amount of 10,000 rubles making silver cigarette cases, ГИМ; лжица Ñ Ñ€ÐºÐ·ÑŒÐ±Ð¾Ð¹, ÐГМ."
I cannot find a translation for the end part - and I just want to check that this translation is right. Is there any way that the translation to English could be clearer?
Regards,
Piette
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi piette -
for the different abbreviations of Russian Museums, please look at PL page 357!
the two words i can not translate, something with spoons....
We have to ask Etranger.
Regards
Postnikov
for the different abbreviations of Russian Museums, please look at PL page 357!
the two words i can not translate, something with spoons....
We have to ask Etranger.
Regards
Postnikov
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Thank you Postnikov. I was not aware that they were abbreviations for museums. :-)
Regards,
Piette
Regards,
Piette
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
лжица Ñ Ñ€ÐµÐ·Ð±Ð¾Ð¹ is liturgic spoon with carving http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_(liturgy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
ГИМ - state historical museum, ÐГМ -historical museum of Novgorod
ГИМ - state historical museum, ÐГМ -historical museum of Novgorod
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi Etranger -
thanks for the translation!
Regards
Postnikov
thanks for the translation!
Regards
Postnikov
Re: Dimitri Nikolaev
Hi Postnikov,
welcome, always at your service
welcome, always at your service