Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

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mhmorningstar
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Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby mhmorningstar » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:25 am

I have a shell spoon marked Coin with a pictorial mark that I cannot identify. The only other markings are a "MMH" monogram on the front.

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby AG2012 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:51 am

Hi,
I think it was an ordinary tea spoon converted to more attractive spoon with shell bowl.
Solder line is clearly seen. Spoons are not made like this.
Cannot help with the maker
Regards

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby mhmorningstar » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:51 pm

Thank you for your reply. I am actually very confident the shell is original. I have seen other examples of shell spoons from early to mid 19th century and I have a few other "modified" pieces as well - one is a really cool 1874 Russian handle with an 1847 Victorian Gothic Crown as the bowl (gothic crown most likely a reproduction but did test positive for silver). My biggest concern with the shell spoon is trying to find out if the pictorial mark can help identify the maker. What you pointed to as a solder line is a shadow on the curve from my poor lighting.

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby silverly » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:58 pm

The mark may be a journeyman's.

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby mhmorningstar » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:34 pm

Possibly a journeyman’s mark. Has me confused.

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby silverly » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:26 pm

Someone that worked under a master and therefore did not rate an identifiable mark.

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby WesternPA » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:19 am

This is a mark that seems to appear on a lot of pieces with retailers in the area around Detroit and as far East as Erie. Still looking into identifying it.

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby WesternPA » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:20 am

Probably a manufacturer's mark.

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby Traintime » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:13 am

There may be a logic to an odd maker mark. We have several legal cases by manufacturers against retailers over accounts recievable not paid. A retailer may want to show a guarantee to a customer, while protecting his middleman position by not revealing the actual maker. But the maker still needs a way to prove his property should recovery become necessary in partial settlements (hard silver having some intrinsic value). A large-scale maker dealing with several retailers over a region might then select a special mark for this line of his business. Perhaps such a mark might be entered as evidence in a legal case, but not being revealed in public records of that case (trade secrets).

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Re: Unknown Mark On Coin Silver Shell Spoon

Postby mhmorningstar » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:09 pm

This is a mark that seems to appear on a lot of pieces with retailers in the area around Detroit and as far East as Erie. Still looking into identifying it.


That would make sense with this one. This piece was purchased at an estate sale in a suburb just outside Detroit.


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