Brit Sterling? American Coin? Continental? Star Maker Mark

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SilverSurfer
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Brit Sterling? American Coin? Continental? Star Maker Mark

Postby SilverSurfer » Wed May 17, 2006 10:31 pm

This spoon is frustrating. I feel like I should recognize the maker's mark, but I don't, nor can I find it listed anywhere. It is reminiscent of Matthew Boulton's Sheffield Silver mark, but no cigar. Likewise it resembles a few marks for some 17th century English provincial silver, but that is much too early. The spoon is Scottish Oar Pattern (shoulderless Fiddle Pattern), and may be provincial Scottish, or perhaps c.1805 American coin silver, maybe even Continental? It is 22.5 cm in length, and weighs 60 grams. The bowl tip has a pronounced French-style "shelf" on the upper (concave) side. Here are the pics:

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Can someone identify these marks, so I can smack myself in the forehead and exclaim, "THAT'S it! I should have known!!!" Thanks in advance!

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Postby SilverSurfer » Thu May 18, 2006 10:56 pm

Thank you to the moderator for moving this thread over from the Brit Silver board. More examination reveals some small fold cracks on the stem underside of the spoon. Though the spoon is competently made in general, well proportioned, smooth and symmetrical, the small surface cracks on the stem underside indicate that it was fashioned from hand-hammered sheet and was not finished to the highest standard where the cracks appear. To me this points more to an American origin than a provincial Brit beginning. Perhaps the maker's marks are those of a part-time silversmith (maybe even a talented blacksmith?) who was never recorded?

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Re: Brit Sterling? American Coin? Continental? Star Maker M

Postby SilverSurfer » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:27 pm

It's been four years and still no solution, so I thought I'd bump this one back to the top of the list. The original full-length photo now overflows the revised screen format, so here's a re-sized shot:

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Still think Provincial Scot and c.1805 American are the most likely origin candidates, depends on whether these marks are recognized somewhere with decent attribution. TIA for any and all input!
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Re: Brit Sterling? American Coin? Continental? Star Maker M

Postby SilverSurfer » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:05 pm

Another blast from the past. Still hoping someone might recognize these marks, off the wall as they are. Any takers? Thx!!!

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Re: Brit Sterling? American Coin? Continental? Star Maker Mark

Postby SilverSurfer » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:07 am

Bump back to the top! Thought I'd try again, now with a new image host. Same questions as before, here are the pics in case the old links don't work for you (I can see them, but evidently many others can't).

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C.1805 American? Scottish Provincial? Inquiring minds! ;o)

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Re: Brit Sterling? American Coin? Continental? Star Maker Mark

Postby WesternPA » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:25 pm

The shape of the bowl sure looks continental, perhaps German states circa 1820-50.


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