Indian Peace Medal Hallmark

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Indian Peace Medal Hallmark

Postby gherrick » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:33 pm

This unidentified Indian Peace Medal has an unidentified hallmark and I would like to know if anyone has any ideas. The date of this medal is unknown at this time but probably from the late 1700s. It has been suggested that the mark may belong to Samuel Allardice, partner with Robert Scots and die sinker at the US Mint. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Thank you.

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Re: Indian Peace Medal Hallmark

Postby Aguest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:26 pm

This is more of a "Medal" which would fall into the category of Coins and Exonumia, but I do know a little about these medals, both genuine and non-genuine, and a good article is written about them here:

The author of this article would be the best person to contact, however there are other experts which could give an opinion about authenticity:

"Over more than three decades, Colonial and early U.S. coin and medal specialist Anthony Terranova has accumulated fantasies, facsimiles, and forgeries of Indian peace medals. He’s received these from some who believed they had genuine numismatic items.""

Genuine Indian peace medals are official government or commercial pieces presented to Native American tribal leaders as diplomatic gifts and to encourage the opening of trade.

Terranova recently stopped acquiring such pieces, which he often purchased just to remove them from the marketplace. He has donated 55 of these pieces to the American Numismatic Society.

Differences of intent

Terranova explains that a forgery or fake is a piece that is made to deceive a buyer. He states that a facsimile is an example created to show what a genuine piece would look like and is intended to be used for educational purposes. He defines a fantasy as a totally made-up piece for which an original does not exist.

Terranova said he purchased a number of the pieces knowing they were not genuine. Terranova kept the pieces primarily as a reference file.

Terranova said he made it his business to examine confirmed genuine pieces so that he would be able to differentiate them from questionable pieces.

Among pieces Terranova donated to the ANS is a group of facsimile Washington oval Indian peace medals made of metals other than the silver used for originals.

He also identified a group of oval fantasy medals similar in style to the Treaty of Greenville medals. The official medals were presented to tribal leaders who participated in the Treaty of Greenville — the Aug. 3, 1795, agreement signed between tribes in the Ohio Valley and the federal government.

According to Terranova, the small-size Treaty of Greenville fantasy medals were likely produced for sale at some point in time after the signing of the treaty.

Terranova also donated an extremely deceptive “forged fantasy composite,” according to the ANS — a “Montreal medal” that was purportedly “conceived for the loyalty of the 182 Native Americans who remained with Sir William Johnson and the British army until the end of the Montreal campaign in 1760.”

The forgery is stamped with a fake silversmith’s hallmark.

Also included in Terranova’s donation are privately issued medals for John Adams and William Henry Harrison, two presidents for whom official Indian peace medals were never issued.

Many of the fakes he received from collectors likely were purchased at gun or antique shows, flea markets, period re-enactment camps and similar venues, Terranova said."

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