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Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:59 pm
by dognose
Hi,

Can anyone offer an insight into this mark?

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I'm wondering if it may be one of the marks used by Ambrose Kent of Canada.

Found on a dessert knife.

Trev.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:00 pm
by 2209patrick
Hi Trev.

My Canadian references don't show the crown over AK mark for Ambrose Kent & Sons.

Have only seen this set of marks once before. Suspect that it is Scandinavian or continental european.

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Pat.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:15 pm
by dognose
Hi Pat,

Many thanks for that, I'm sure somewhere in the back of my mind, I've seen that 'AK' mark before, or maybe I'm just confusing it with another.

Trev.

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:55 am
by vvall
Alexander Kach, Moscow, Russia

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:15 am
by dognose
Hi vvall,

Welcome to the Forum.

Many thanks for solving the mystery. Do you have any further details? What the 'GP' stands for. Working dates etc.

Regards Trev.

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:23 am
by 2209patrick
Hello everyone.

That's great news vvall, thanks.

Pat.

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:59 pm
by JnJ
vvall, many thanks for the AK mystery. We have been looking for years.

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:41 am
by JnJ
We have looked for Alexandre Kach and cannot find any information. Any more info on him vvall?

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:15 am
by dognose
Hi JnJ,

Welcome to the Forum.

Additional information on Alexander Katsch can be found in this topic: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=21142&p=49203#p49203

Trev.

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:16 am
by JnJ
Silverport, you are a wealth of knowledge. On the heavy side of the tray. It is a plain round tray with a diameter of 310mm and a weight of 923 grams. Almost 1 kg of weight in what we consider is a small tray. We will take your advice and visit the dealer again, and we will also make as many enquiries through our other silver friends. We were thrilled to find the tray in the beginning, 16 years ago in St. Petersburg, so any information on its history is really the icing on the cake. Once again, many thanks for your invaluable help. Best regards, JnJ.

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:03 pm
by silverport
For reason of curiosity I’ve made some brief calculations of approximation.

Hello again

I’ve made some brief calculations. They are an approximation only; because I don’t know the decorative details of trays rim. But that is of influence only on diameter related details. In these brief calculations I’ve also ignored the surface plate; because its weight is already included in the trays basic weight of 923 gram.

Basics: Tray of 310 mm diameter, and weight of 923 gram.

1 cubic decimetre of the following alloys have a weight of:

»Geitner« alloy = 8.4726 kg
»84« zolotniki = 10.29375 kg
»Sterling« = 10.37225 kg

If the tray is made from a similar alloy as the »Geitner« alloy is, then his
Volume is in cubic decimetre: 0.1089394; by a weight of 923 gram.

If the tray was made from a »84« zolotniki silver alloy, then his
Volume would be in cubic decimetre: 0.089666; by a weight of 923 gram.

If the tray was made from a »Sterling« silver alloy, then his
Volume would be in cubic decimetre: 0.0889874; by a weight of 923 gram.

If the tray was made from an »84« zolotniki silver alloy, and would have the same
Volume in cubic decimetre as now: 0.1089394; then the trays weight would be: 1.1213949 kg.

If the tray was made from a »Sterling« silver alloy, and would have the same
Volume in cubic decimetre as now: 0.1089394; then the trays weight would be: 1.1299466 kg.

Kind regards silverport

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:42 am
by Qrt.S
To Dognose,

Please find the answer (GP) here viewtopic.php?f=36&t=19656&p=56439#p56439

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:44 am
by dognose
Hi Qrt.S,

Many thanks for providing this information.

(Did you really think that I would miss one of your posts!)

Regards Trev.

Re: Unknown AK-GP Mark

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:56 am
by dartsil
Just thought I would add a further image of this mark on a basting spoon.

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