Dutch silver ornamental?

[Dael69]

Hellos guys,

I just bought a set of silver things and I saw the dutch marks. I would like some help to ID them. Thx a lot.

[dognose]

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

You are far more likely to get a response if you embed your images as few people will click on links.

Trev.

[oel]

Hi, welcome to the Dutch forum.

For information about the Dutch (hall)marks see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028

The lion passant above 2, the 2nd standard mark silver 833/1000 fineness or 83.3% pure silver with the attached export key mark, to indicate 2/3 marking duty restitution upon export, and followed by the office mark, the Minerva head with the regional assay office letter M in its helmet for the city of Schoonhoven. The date letter N for 1948. The maker’s mark could have been over struck by the word; SILVER or is not showing. I believe this ornamental cake fork to be made by: Fa.(Firm) H. Hooijkaas 1874-2008; Zilverfabriek Schoonhoven .
See:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28590


Oel.

[Dael69]

Very nice description Oel. Thx a lot!

I will do my best to take better pics or borrow a good camera. This is the full set:



Best regards.

[oel]

Thanks,to avoid confusion please start a new topic for each item and show an image of the complete item and an enhanced image of the (hall)marks, the maker’s mark and/or all other marks.


Oel.

[Dael69]

I have better pictures of this piece and I found the marker mark. I like the job of finding all this marks, it was very funny and interesting.

[oel]

Hi,

Maker’s mark;*H.H*, indeed the mark of: Fa.(Firm) H. Hooijkaas 1874-2008; Zilverfabriek Schoonhoven .
For more information about Hooijkaas see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28590



Oel.

[Qrt.S]

Mind my asking but what are the three forks with one long sponge in the middle used for? In Finland, Russia and the Baltic countries an almost similar fork is called potato fork but I doubt your forks are used for potatoes. Correct me if I'm wrong but I would vote for mango, or?

[oel]

Hi Qrt.S,

In the Netherlands most experts believe the whole mango issue to be American baloney. You will never be able to stick the long pointed tine of the fork in a mango seed. Officially a cake fork has a long middle tine flanked by two smaller curved tines and were used in the Netherlands for serving the cake (variations in tine length and curves are known).
Although those funny forks with one long tine could be perfect for eating cake or pie. I believe those forks could be used to prick/eat; a small pickle or candied fruit or sweet potato.
A Google image search of: zilveren cakevork will reveal a variation of those forks and some have an extreme long middle tine. In the past the forks were a gift in a presentation box, and most people never used those forks and dumped the box in a drawer. I call those long tine forks useless utensils.
http://www.pe.com/articles/graber-615305-book-fork.html

Oel.

[Qrt.S]

This is very interesting. There are many kind of forks and there are variations in the use of them in various countries. Below you can see some different forks. Seen from left the Finnish use of them:

1. A questioned "mango or cake fork" ??? (Dutch). Rarely seen here
2. An ordinary potato fork with a long tine (sorry, not sponge ;-))) in the middle
3. Another ordinary potato fork
4. A typical cake fork for serving but not eating cake.
5. A typical pastry/cake spoon with a thicker left tine to cut and eat with but not for serving
6. An olive picking fork (Dutch) .
7. Another olive fork/spoon to pick with. Note the hole in the bowl

[Qrt.S]

AAaahhh! Number 5 is of course a fork not a spoon!!!!

[Qrt.S]

Here are some interesting links

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... ork#p39993
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... ork#p69427