Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

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Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby Silvermania » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:30 am

Can anyone please assist with the identification of these German silver marks? Understand that the animal figure may be that of the C18th?
http://tinypic.com/r/2m82nev/9

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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby Aguest » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:00 am

Do you have a pic of the entire bowl, perhaps with an image of the monogram of Count Von Arnim (does the bowl have that monogram?) ?

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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby dognose » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:02 am

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

In future posts please ensure your images are embedded.

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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby Silvermania » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:29 am

Hi Aguest,
yes there is a monogram on the bowl, a high 'queen' crown over A.P.H.

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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby AG2012 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:40 am

Hi,
The maker is Gebrüder Kühn - Schwäbisch Gmünd,founded 1860.
Crescent and crown Reichsmark was introduced in 1886.
https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_a1884_5.html
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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby Silvermania » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:51 am

Thank you very much AG2012, for sharing your knowledge.
We are told this silver bowl with the 'A.P.H.' monogram / crest belonged to Count Von Arnim, who died 1881, i.e. 5 years before the crescent and crown was introduced in 1886. Suppose it could have belonged to off spring rather than the Count himself, we're researching the family history for the 'A.P.H.' meaning.

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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby AG2012 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:52 am

Please, show us the image of the whole item, as well as crowned monogram
Thank you.

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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby Silvermania » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:25 pm

Thank you I have added 2 more photographs

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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby AG2012 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:09 pm

Indeed, the crown has nine pearls,consistent with Graf (male), a historical title of the German nobility, usually translated as "count". Considered to be intermediate among noble ranks,equivalent to the British title of "earl".
The style looks Art Nouveau.
Unless there is reliable, direct provenance, it's impossible to identify the original owner and the meaning of name initials.
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Re: Count Von Arnim silver bowl, age?

Postby Silvermania » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:48 pm

Yes, agree the style is reminiscent of that period.
Thank you for your assistance.


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