NOACK HAMBURG SILVER STAND

[niceguy1]

HELLO

I have this silver stand.

The maker seems to be Johann Friedrich August Noack. Who is the letter Z under the Hamburg Mark? & what is the third hallmark underneath?

I imagine the stand would have had a glass bowl insert.

THANKS IN ADVANCE

[silverfan]

The Z stands for assaymaster Matthias Ernst Danckert, in duty 1749-1758.
Regards silverfan

[silverfan]

but that does not match with Joh. Friedr. August Noack 1815-1856.
Regards silverfan

[niceguy1]

So could it be any other Noack? & what is the third mark for?

[oel]

Hi,

The third mark is a Dutch tax mark,the script-letter I.
The script-letter I used 1906-1953; Duty mark for unguaranteed standard of fineness new silver objects of national origin. This mark was used on all new Netherlands silver objects below legal standard of fineness, those with non-precious metal additions, and new heavily silver plated objects, as long as the average precious metal content after melting with the base metal was at least 250/1000. It was also struck on rejected objects which had been submitted at lowest legal standard of fineness. In that case the maker had to choose between destruction or ‘unguaranteed’ marking. This mark was sometimes mistakenly used on old and foreign objects and in 1927 also used on objects of old national origin. Valid from 1906 till 1953.
See:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028



Oel.

[blakstone]

Assayer Danckert used the letter "Z" in the first cycle of assayer's letters during the time period stated. But the "Z" here is from the second cycle, used by assayer Johann Christian Daniel Weyergang 1826-1837, and is thus perfectly in keeping with Noack's working dates.

Ref: Erich Schliemann & Bernhard Heitmann, Goldschmiede Hamburgs (Hamburg: Schliemann & Cie, 1985), p. 13, mark #90.