old Russian mark on jewelry

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EA21
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old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby EA21 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:52 am

hi, need some help with this one...
appreciate any help.
thanks.
https://imgur.com/SsMaZjm
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https://imgur.com/PfVkLl5

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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby AG2012 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:47 am

Hi,
Embedded your images.Do it,please, with your posts in the future:very few people will click on links.
The first Kokoshnik 1896 - 1908 with assayer AP (AR).At least two assayers AP known to me.
Take a look here:
http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia_kokoshnik_01.html

Struck twice, no maker`s mark (curious and suspicious).The brooch is old (rose cut diamonds). Is there a `` C`` clasp ? Where are the marks ?
``56`` should stand for 14K, or more precisely .583 gold.


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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby EA21 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:15 am

AG2012 wrote:Hi,
Embedded your images.Do it,please, with your posts in the future:very few people will click on links.
The first Kokoshnik 1896 - 1908 with assayer AP (AR).At least two assayers AP known to me.
Take a look here:
http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia_kokoshnik_01.html

Struck twice, no maker`s mark (curious and suspicious).The brooch is old (rose cut diamonds). Is there a `` C`` clasp ? Where are the marks ?
``56`` should stand for 14K, or more precisely .583 gold.


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thank you for answer.
i did find another 2 faded marks. one of them look like a signature,the other one look like initials or numbers? very faded... couldn't get better images.
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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby AG2012 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:31 am

The brooch is OK, I mean genuine piece of Russian jewelry of the period stated above with the first kokoshnik mark. I suppose you have seen the assayers in the link above (initials AP with 56).
Needle is marked, too, very good. And ``C`` clasp, rose cut diamonds.

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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby EA21 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:21 pm

AG2012 wrote:The brooch is OK, I mean genuine piece of Russian jewelry of the period stated above with the first kokoshnik mark. I suppose you have seen the assayers in the link above (initials AP with 56).
Needle is marked, too, very good. And ``C`` clasp, rose cut diamonds.


thank you very much.
as i understand,no way to tell the exact maker between these 2 (maybe even others with the same initials who knows)
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again,thanks for your help.

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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby AG2012 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:03 pm

What we have here are assayers, NOT makers. There is no maker`s mark or you did not find it.

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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby EA21 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:19 pm

AG2012 wrote:What we have here are assayers, NOT makers. There is no maker`s mark or you did not find it.


Ok... well done! that just made me search a bit closer. i found it now,on the pin itself.
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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby AG2012 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:57 pm

Yes, but impossible to decipher.Never mind, it`s nice and authentic piece of Imperial Russia jewelry.
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Re: old Russian mark on jewelry

Postby EA21 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:04 pm

Indeed.
thanks again!
cheers.


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