Help with Russian Makers Mark

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Lucent1123
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Help with Russian Makers Mark

Postby Lucent1123 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:39 am

Hi again,

I just picked up a Russian bracelet for my fiancee. I am trying to find info on the maker of this piece. Searches so far have not led me to who this might be. Any help is appreciated.

Lucent
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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark

Postby AG2012 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:43 am

Hi,
Take a look here.Everything explained by member Qrt.S.
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38898
Except for Greek letter Delta for Moscow in your bracelet.
What`s the weight to compare with number ``3`` in Kokoshnik mark ?
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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark

Postby AG2012 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:25 am

The weight should be 22 g or more, but less than 29 g.
(56 is actually .583 but approximately 14 K).
Searching for maker

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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark

Postby Lucent1123 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:40 am

Thanks for the reply. The weight is actually just under 14 grams. Is that an issue? The first Russian Cup I purchased proved to be a fake... I hope I am not 0 for 2.

Thanks

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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark

Postby AG2012 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:50 am

I calculated 1 zolotnik as 4, 26 g pure gold.
Number 3 indicates the tax was paid on 3 zolotniks, i.e. for 12,78g gold (pure or 14 K is the question).
If the weight was calculated for 12, 78 pure gold then 14 K weight would be 22 g but if calculated as
4, 26 X 3 the result is 12, 78 g. I cannot find any reliable reference of the calculation.
I have attached the image of the clasp. Red arrow points to rather unusual color of gold solder being white. Gold solder is always distinctively yellow. This is a weak point of clasps and they often break and need repair. On the other hand, unscrupulous dealers transfer clasps with lucrative marks. Cannot tell for sure, I am phobic with Russian silver.
Hopefully, other members of the forum will shed more light, particularly on calculation issue.
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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark

Postby Lucent1123 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:41 am

Thanks for the reply.... I read the other post you mentioned and noticed based on her numeric code for the weight, I am within spec in that regard. I put the clasp under a microscope, and the gold soldier is actually the same color as the clasp, it must have been a weird reflection of some sort. I notice in the pic it looks like the white goes even past the clasp a bit.

I will keep searching out the maker, hopefully, will have some luck in that regard.

Thanks again.

Lucent

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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark

Postby Lucent1123 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:47 pm

I still have not found the maker, but will keep looking...... really nice piece of jewelry in person.


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