Musical jewellery box unknow Hallmark

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expressvectra
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Musical jewellery box unknow Hallmark

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Hi,
I have this sterling silver musical jewellery box and i can`t find the meaning of the hallmarks. If someone can help please.

Thank you.

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Post by oel »

Hi, welcome to the forum. It is Italian.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/Fitalian_marks_01.html
and see: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 38&t=27003
The mechanical musical device is made by Reuge. See;
http://www.reuge.com/reuge/history
Please embedded your images. Embedded images getting a far better response as most people do not click on links.

Peter.
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Thank you Peter. I found MC Macerata i can`t find R, 43 and i don`t understand the long writing on the box.
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Hi,
Welcome to the forum.
It`s Italian,Alliani, pictures and plaques embossed in relief. The lozenge mark on the right is registration number 13 MC and stands for Macerata.
Comparing to prints, 20 /25 means 25 boxes were made and yours is 20th.
Google for ALLIANI SILVER.
The movement is Swiss, Reuge. Modern piece.
Please, when you post in the future try to embed your images because few people will click on links.
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Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

What you have is a resin base covered with a layer of silver. To identify such pieces, and so that they are not to be confused with solid silver items, as they do contain a full set of Italian marks, the Italian government require some extra marks to be struck. These extra marks are a 'R' within a square, this stands for 'Riempito' (filled), and also a set of figures that indicate the amount of silver deposited, in grams (1÷2 g, 2÷3 g, 3÷5g, etc.). These are not exact weights, but must fit into range stated by each mark. In your case there is between 20 and 25 grams of silver deposited on the outside of the product.

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Thanks Trev. Had no idea.
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Thank you all for helping me so quick. I will be more careful with the pictures in the future.
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Details of the maker, Acca srl, can now be found here:

Italian Silverware and Jewellery Manufacturers

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dognose wrote:Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

What you have is a resin base covered with a layer of silver. To identify such pieces, and so that they are not to be confused with solid silver items, as they do contain a full set of Italian marks, the Italian government require some extra marks to be struck. These extra marks are a 'R' within a square, this stands for 'Riempito' (filled), and also a set of figures that indicate the amount of silver deposited, in grams (1÷2 g, 2÷3 g, 3÷5g, etc.). These are not exact weights, but must fit into range stated by each mark. In your case there is between 20 and 25 grams of silver deposited on the outside of the product.

Trev.
Hi,
to be more correct that type of indication refers to silver sheet applied on other materials, not plating like electroplating or deposition.
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that means that the object is not properly to be defined silver plate, in theory you can remove the silver sheet.
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